Breaking Barriers: The Real Pageant Journey w/ Mrs. Utah County

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Welcome.

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To the inner workings of
the not so genius mind.

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I'm Amanda McCombs, the not so genius.

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You're Mrs. Daybreak and I
have with me Mrs. Utah County.

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Oh my gosh.

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I'm looking at all of your sashes.

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Look at you.

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Oh, my lot of work.

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Beautiful.

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Holy smokes with your headshot up above.

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Anyway, she is my sash sister.

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I'm introducing you.

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My sash sister in the business
of people running a family

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business with her husband, man.

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And was it you that wrote.

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That cookbook with your daughters?

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Yes.

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We'll talk about that more.

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And she's a mom of three amazing girls.

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We were just talking
about your youngest is 10.

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Yeah.

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Ballroom and hip hop dance fanatic.

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Like you like to dance them.

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Yeah, and I teach them help.

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Help a girl out, please.

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The last one you said,
you're my biggest fan.

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I love you so much, Clarissa.

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So happy to,

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so, so happy to be here with you.

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I mean already, Amanda, your journey from,
it's been what we've known each other

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for a little over a year and a half, and
like your journey has been inspiring and

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very, very visual to me that there is
proof people can change and proof that.

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What we go through can either destroy
us or refine us and make us stronger and

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better like you are living proof of that.

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Yeah.

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I think

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you probably met me when I was
at one of my lowest of lows

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because, um, Jess.

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Is the one that invited me to
do the pageant and she had no

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idea what I was going through.

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Like nobody did.

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I was really good at hiding it
like a lot of us are, right?

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Yeah.

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Serious, real.

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Um, but we just had that workshop.

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When was it?

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Uh, it wasn't even a workshop.

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It was the favorite thanks
Christmas party, I think.

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And you left me that message
and afterwards I was like.

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Nobody has ever talked to me like that.

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I've never had a community of women where
I've just felt like I could be safe.

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Right.

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So like, we're, we're like, not, we're
two, two minutes in and I'm crying.

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Um, you're just, you're
so incredible to me.

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And you've just been an amazing example
and I've never, the whole time I've been.

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Doing this pageant thing like
this is my second year and now

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I'm looking, is it your fourth?

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It's my fourth.

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And so like people are, people
are so surprised that women keep

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coming back, but we keep coming back
because of the relationships we have.

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We come back because of the sisterhood
and because it helps lift each other up.

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Yeah, I, I know of no other
organization that I have been aware of.

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I mean, I'm sure there are things
like this in other sectors, but like

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you will never find women who are
working on themselves, working in the

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community to make it better and cheering
each other on within that realm.

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Yeah.

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Right.

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It's never

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been me against you.

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It's like, wow.

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Look at how amazing you are.

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Look at how amazing you are.

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What can I do to help you?

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Um, we're sharing dresses, wardrobe,
whatever, um, tips and tricks.

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Like, nothing's a secret.

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We're not keeping anything hidden.

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It's not, we're helping each other.

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Like it's a true vision
of empowerment, right?

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You know, and that's not,
it's not the April 25th stuff.

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Right.

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But to a certain extent, it kind of is.

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You have to extrapolate that
out because it is, mm-hmm.

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That is what we want, but we
recognize that it has to be done.

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Uh, through little pieces, not, not
the full spectrum of world peace, but

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like each individual woman recognizes
that that's what she wants overall.

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But her portion is her purpose in
that period of time, in that small

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bubble that she has influence over.

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Yeah.

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Well, and we, every single woman
I've met in this pageant, they

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all just have incredible stories.

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To share and they're
all driven to do good.

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Whatever good it is.

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And I think some of us, some of
us, like last year I was like, oh

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my gosh, deer in the headlights.

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I didn't realize what I had really
signed up for until like it's over.

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It was over.

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And then I was, and then
I was like, oh my gosh.

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It goes on to Mrs. America.

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You make prizes.

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I didn't even think
about winning anything.

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Like my thought going
into it was not winning.

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It was, what the heck is this?

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Yeah.

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And long for the ride and it was healing.

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We need that.

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I agree to that.

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Yeah.

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And I talked, I was talking with
somebody El a friend yesterday.

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I got invited to Zumba.

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And I was like, yeah,
sure, I'll go to Zumba.

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I haven't done it in years.

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And then she was like,
oh, it's at a church.

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And I was like, 'cause
I don't go to church.

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Right.

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Um, I have a very strenuous relationship
with like church buildings and very

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worried that I walk in and they're gonna
like burst into flames because of me.

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Um, but I went in and everyone
was so like welcoming.

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I cried to her afterwards because
we, we've lost our villages.

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I think that's one of

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the reasons why I teach hip
hop, because that is community.

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When we, and, and I have ladies who can't
even speak English, who come into my

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class, and it truly is that dance is this.

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This universal language that empowers
us because we are mastering control

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over this individual that we have.

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We have to practice letting
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music and feel those moves and.

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I have to laugh because I teach,
one of my classes is actually at

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a church, but it's free and it's
community and anybody can come.

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That's just the medium in
which we're able to do that.

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But you'll never find a, a more
amazing group of ladies, right, than

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those who go to that community to
make friends and to welcome others.

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I walked

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in and I was a little
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I have a hard time.

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Sorry, I'm gonna cry again.

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You're good.

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You're good, Amanda.

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I have a hard time knowing

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if somebody genuinely wants
to be my friend because yeah.

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I've been so hurt in the past.

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I've had people that have totally betrayed
me and pretended to be my friend and.

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I was alone for a long time.

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I didn't have a sisterhood.

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And when I moved into my new community, it
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It was 2019.

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And that's hard happened.

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And it's hard for me to make
friends 'cause people are scary.

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And I don't know if I'm like actually
for real being invited or they

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really want me being there because
I've been told I'm too much or.

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Whatever.

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Right, right.

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So you come up against the barrier
of, will I be accepted for who I am?

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And I kind of, this pageant kind of,

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and I think I, I, when I
said it to you is how I was

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kind of figuring out how to say it right?

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'cause I was so broken.

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All your broken and shattered pieces
are all over the floor, right?

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And then super quiet.

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I love it.

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No back.

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Not that

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all your broken pieces are all over the
floor, and you have to even figure out

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what they mean and if you even want them
before you can put 'em back together.

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And I like, I didn't, I didn't even know.

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What my favorite food was.

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I'm like trying to think of ques,
like the different questions

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and like just basic things.

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Tell me about yourself.

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That's like one of the first pageant
questions that they ask you when you

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interview and it, and you only have so
much time and you can't just be like it.

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Like you have to know who you are and
you have to be like, this is who I am

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and it's okay if people don't like me.

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And this pageant like taught me
that I could, like, it grounded me

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so that I'm like more aligned with
my own purpose and I'm not thinking

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about what everybody else thinks
about me, because that's exhausting.

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We can't do that because all,
all of this isn't for them.

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It's for me.

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Right.

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Yeah, I think that, um, what I
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multiple years for me, is to choose
to accept the new me every time.

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Because each one of these years I can look
back and things have been so different.

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And so if I, if I was still
the person from the first year,

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uh, there would be issues.

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Right.

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And I think you recognize that now.

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I mean, when I saw you at that party,
at the favorite things party, it had

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been what, like six or seven months
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And you know, I texted you and I was like,
look, you are, you are totally different.

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Still the same, but like there was
something so different about you, so

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peaceful, so grounded, so open, secure.

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I think that would be a
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Just very self secure.

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And you know, if you were still what
you were the first time you signed

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up for your first pageant last
year, like then the patent system

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or life wouldn't be doing its job.

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Yeah.

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I wasn't even eating, I was so depressed.

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It was right after my mom.

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Yeah, like a couple
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Yeah.

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And I was like, no way me do a
beauty pageant weirdo, Jess is crazy.

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Why would I do a beauty pageant?

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And that's insane.

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And then I started like
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was like, sure, why not?

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I think there was only
one person that was like.

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Are you nuts?

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But I just like, I didn't know I, I
needed a community and I needed, Jess

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believed in me for some weird reason.

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Right.

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Hold on.

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No,

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um.

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I just saw her dancing in
a pretty dress on Facebook.

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I wanted to see what it was about
and it healed me and I met amazing,

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like you just have always been
very self-assured and well-spoken.

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And I was so shy because I was so worried
about what everybody thought about me.

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So then when people like you are like,
I wanna be your friend, I'm like.

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Yeah, it really requires, it requires
you to look at the boundaries that

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you placed on yourself for protection.

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Yeah.

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And learning to like let those go.

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So that you can be that genuine self.

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Because what I have noticed
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like requires a genuine self.

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Yeah.

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You cannot be in it
just to like be pretty.

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Yeah.

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Well, and, and I don't know about other
systems, but from what I have seen

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of other systems, you could maybe get
away with not being your genuine self.

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Yeah.

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But how?

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But how the directors of the Mrs.
Utah pageant work, I mean, I haven't

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been to nationals, so that's something
so different or worlds or whatever,

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but like our directors of this
pageant pull that genuine self out.

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We well, and

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I love that we can get together and
that we have our community, that we

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can be chatting and we can be helping
each other and motivating each other.

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Because there's never been, I've
never felt undercut, and I've never

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seen anybody undercut anybody else.

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It is the most genuine group
of amazing women I've ever met.

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So now I wanna back up because
let's go back to year one.

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What made you try not, how
did this journey even be?

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Oh, man.

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Let's see, my middle daughter
is 13 years old when she was

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still an infant in her car seat.

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We, my husband and I, so I had
one older daughter and then her.

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Mm-hmm.

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And we were up in Ogden.

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We had just moved up to Ogden,
um, bought our first home and we

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were driving down Main Street in
Ogden and we passed the theater.

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I think it's called the Egyptian Theater.

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That's up in Ogden.

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Oh yeah.

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He, it said, Mrs. Utah, you know, June
something I, I, that's all I can remember.

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And I have that visual in my head.

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And my husband, he looked at me and
he is like, you should do those.

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You should do one of those sometime.

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And I was like, yeah, right.

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Like, okay.

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And you know, that's you.

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Yeah.

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I had kind of thought
about my teenage years and.

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Uh, just not quite getting the parental
support for doing anything like that.

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Um, I think I, I love my parents.

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I have such a great relationship with
them, but they only knew what they

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only knew and they were trying to
do their best, and that was just not

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something that was in their vision of
what they wanted out of their daughter.

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Let's just put it.

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And I respect that.

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And I know that my girls are probably
gonna have the same feelings about me

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when they're, you know, 29, 28, 29, and
they're probably gonna look back and

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be like, ah, mom, you know, but I'll be
like, look, at that time, at that period,

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these were the decisions that we had made.

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I. And that's, that's great.

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In parenting, it's all about forgiveness.

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I, I tell you, it's all about forgiveness,
but so I had thought, so I had wanted to

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do that as a teenager and as a young girl.

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I mean, I watched pageants growing up.

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I watched Miss America and Miss USA
when they were on tv and, you know, I,

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I just love all of that, the dresses
and the glam, and didn't really

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know anything about the backend.

292
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Well, fast forward to 2021.

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Oh, and I had just finished teaching,
so it had been 10 years since that

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conversation that my husband just
planted that seed of like, you

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should do one of those someday.

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Like very casual.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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I had just finished teaching a hip
hop class and I had gone to my car

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and I was posting about my class and I
distinctly heard the words in my head.

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It's time, it's time.

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And I knew exactly what that was.

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I knew I had that flash of that
marquee and my husband holding my

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hand in that car, in the car seat,
in my peripheral vision in the back,

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and I knew exactly what that was for.

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So I. That's how it happened.

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I didn't know there were
other pageant systems.

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I didn't know how that worked.

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Like I had no idea.

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All I knew was that I had an acquaintance
who had done a pageant the year

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before, and she had posted about it,
and so that I contacted her and said.

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I need to do this.

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Where do I sign up?

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And she, you know, was like,
well, you gotta wait a little bit.

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Signups don't start until October.

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This was probably like June, may, June.

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And so.

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And, um, you know, in the
meantime, I was on the Mrs.

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Utah America page just looking.

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I had, I had probably emailed our director
d and was like, Hey, I wanna sign up.

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When do I get a start?

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Like, I was like, pre ahead of game.

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Like I, I felt, I felt like this
was important and I needed to get

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it done, but I didn't understand
that whole waiting period anyway.

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So that's how I ended up here, was
just the one seed, the one time.

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In a suggestion by somebody passing by
that germinated for 10 years before, I

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just knew that it was time for me to try
that that season in my life had come.

328
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Right.

329
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And um, I mean the rest is history.

330
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Oh my goodness.

331
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And this history in
the making still Right.

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That journey.

333
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Well, and you, you keep
coming back every year.

334
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So the first year when you didn't
win, were you discouraged and like,

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man?

336
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Yeah, I was, but it was, every
year has been different in

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my growth and my experience.

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I mean, the first year, of course, I
was disappointed, but like I made second

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runner up my very first pageant ever.

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Nice.

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So I was kind of like, well, I didn't
win, but like, that's pretty darn good.

342
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Um, I didn't understand
the pageant let down.

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So for any of your listeners, when
you do a pageant, there's so much

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ramping up to that event that when
it's over and everything is fizzling

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out, there is kind of this heavy lull.

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In energy, in capacity, in, I mean,
we spend so much time together

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and then suddenly it's like an
entity that is dissolved and you're

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kind of like these friendships.

349
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If you haven't established
friendships, you kind of lose them.

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Yeah.

351
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In this support system and this
structure and this, you know,

352
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everything that you're working towards
is for this pinnacle pageant point.

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Nobody ever taught me about that.

354
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So post pageant one was.

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The letdown was very big because I
didn't understand that and wasn't

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prepared for that, but my thoughts
were like, Hey, I did really well.

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My first one, let's try again.

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Mm-hmm.

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Also, within that first year
post pageant, I recognized that

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it was a really good thing.

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I didn't win because I didn't know
what winning would require of me.

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Uh, is was my exact thought.

363
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When I.

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I was, it was actually like I was sitting
backstage, like I knew I wasn't gonna win.

365
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Have you seen those ladies?

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I went in dear in the headlights idea.

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No idea.

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Knew what I was doing.

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No idea.

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I just, I was just kind of there to
like be there and to experience it all.

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And I was like closing my eyes
because, you know, I mentally

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prepare and then I just like.

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Black out, go on stage, come back.

374
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You just gotta, that
is a real thing, right?

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Yep.

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But I, the crown felt heavy on my
head and I was like, I was like doing

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mental whatever, and I was like,

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it's not for me this year.

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It's not time for me yet.

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Um.

381
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I found out later.

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Is that peaceful for you?

383
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Yeah.

384
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Well and that was even
before I didn't win.

385
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I was cheering and clapping
for like everything isn't,

386
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there isn't something to be said about
having the knowledge that you're not

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gonna win before you hope You learn
that because then when you go on

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stage you recognize like, alright.

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It's less who is, who am I going to
be and the person that I want to be

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and show up for these other ladies?

391
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Like you have that choice way before the
moment of your name not being called.

392
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Yeah.

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Well, and I knew, like, I knew my
name wasn't gonna, I. Get called

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IBI knew I bombed my interview.

395
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Like I was just KI didn't
even talk about my platform.

396
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Like I was so nervous.

397
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And afterwards, I actually,
like, I'm friends with Robin now,

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and she was one of our,
and it's like, oh my gosh.

399
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She was like, Mrs. International
something, something, something.

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She's beautiful.

401
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She has a clothing line and there's
like all these other connections that

402
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you get to make and they're like.

403
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They're good, beautiful,
genuine people, and they like

404
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actually wanna be my friends.

405
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They're pretty, and they're nice
and they're not spreading rumors

406
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about me and trying to take me down.

407
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They're like, we're all lifting each other

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up every year of judges I've had, I've
been impressed with the majority of them.

409
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Yeah.

410
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Oh yeah.

411
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And follow them and still keep
in touch with some of them.

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One or two every year.

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Well,

414
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they're incredible.

415
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They, they bring incredible people.

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I was looking at, because Mrs.
World is tonight, I'm coming

417
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down to your watch party.

418
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Are you down?

419
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But I was busy yesterday getting the
not sparkly crowns put in my face.

420
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Oh,

421
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I have those too.

422
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Yeah, I just got two done yesterday.

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And it just took forever.

424
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And I was like, I'm gonna fly down.

425
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I wanna go down and see Jamie.

426
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And my husband's like, are you
gonna leave me here with this zoo?

427
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And I was like, I'll just go down and
then watch the pageant and then come back.

428
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And he's just looking at me.

429
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He's like, you're nuts.

430
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Well, it will be fun.

431
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It's super casual tonight.

432
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So, but like

433
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all of these women that
are involved, that.

434
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At least that I know personally
are just, they're so incredible

435
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and every year they're just,

436
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you have to say that because
I've done it so much.

437
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I recognize that this is not the only way.

438
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There are so many other things
that you can get involved in, and

439
00:24:47,611 --> 00:24:52,111
I think that's what the pageant has
really opened up to me is like your

440
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life, how we serve our purpose.

441
00:24:55,471 --> 00:25:04,651
Our platform is not solidly only
contained in here and we have to be

442
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careful of that because, you know, the
first year, that's how it felt to me.

443
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Like, this is the only way
I'm gonna get this word out.

444
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And the only option for me if I
don't win, like then I'm doomed.

445
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But I have recognized between year two
and three and now three and four, how.

446
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This is just my choice, but in all
reality, my platform can be spread

447
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by so many other organizations
or opportunities like it.

448
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It just doesn't stop with this,

449
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um, as.

450
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Because your, your platform
is build it beautiful, right?

451
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Beautiful.

452
00:25:46,546 --> 00:25:47,056
Yes.

453
00:25:47,146 --> 00:25:48,436
Has it changed?

454
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What was it before?

455
00:25:50,146 --> 00:25:54,766
Yeah, so my first two years it was about
women's hormones and women's health.

456
00:25:54,826 --> 00:25:58,396
I was a health coach for
women and their hormones.

457
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I taught them how to eat and exercise
and give education on women's hormones.

458
00:26:04,876 --> 00:26:07,666
Um, I was a health coach for 10 years.

459
00:26:08,971 --> 00:26:13,111
I just barely got testosterone
and estrogen implanted in my butt.

460
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I had a total hysterectomy.

461
00:26:15,991 --> 00:26:16,321
Yeah.

462
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Yeah.

463
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Then normal doctors don't.

464
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Yeah.

465
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We could talk for hours about this.

466
00:26:21,931 --> 00:26:22,021
Oh yeah.

467
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But like women, I still,

468
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I still am a really big proponent of that,
but, well, my life between year, between

469
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these two years, my life really changed.

470
00:26:36,631 --> 00:26:37,591
Um, you know.

471
00:26:37,741 --> 00:26:43,711
Yeah, I was, I was going through
a lot of health problems, um, for,

472
00:26:43,741 --> 00:26:49,171
because of lack of hormones, but I
also was diagnosed with celiac disease.

473
00:26:49,651 --> 00:26:56,791
I closed my decade old health coaching
business because my husband and I are

474
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both very big entrepreneurs and we were
growing our businesses and doing this.

475
00:27:01,891 --> 00:27:01,921
Oh.

476
00:27:02,851 --> 00:27:05,011
And so I shifted.

477
00:27:06,346 --> 00:27:09,166
And sacrificed to save my marriage.

478
00:27:09,526 --> 00:27:09,916
Yeah.

479
00:27:10,096 --> 00:27:11,806
Um, so that happened.

480
00:27:12,436 --> 00:27:14,926
I was experiencing physical problems.

481
00:27:14,926 --> 00:27:21,256
So I actually, um, I was teaching classes
every day, uh, fitness classes every day.

482
00:27:21,256 --> 00:27:23,566
And I only went down to like
one a week 'cause I was so.

483
00:27:23,911 --> 00:27:26,791
Sick and experiencing
such bad pain in my body.

484
00:27:27,571 --> 00:27:31,261
Um, I had lots of friendship changes
because I was closing my business

485
00:27:31,261 --> 00:27:36,931
because I was leaving my studios,
um, and going through, you know,

486
00:27:37,081 --> 00:27:39,301
my, my kids were becoming teenagers.

487
00:27:39,301 --> 00:27:41,791
Like that in and of itself
is a huge life change.

488
00:27:43,921 --> 00:27:49,201
And, um, so a lot happened
between year two and three.

489
00:27:49,711 --> 00:27:55,051
And to be honest, I probably should
not have been in the pageant last year.

490
00:27:56,701 --> 00:27:59,581
Um, be after year two.

491
00:28:00,781 --> 00:28:05,431
I felt like somebody put everything
I had built on one end of a

492
00:28:05,431 --> 00:28:10,951
teeter-totter and then hammered
the other side and it just flew.

493
00:28:12,976 --> 00:28:15,976
Nothing, nothing had started landing yet.

494
00:28:16,096 --> 00:28:18,106
When I was going through last year.

495
00:28:18,166 --> 00:28:21,526
It was a really, really
pageant year for me.

496
00:28:21,856 --> 00:28:26,716
So sorry to hear that I was mentally
not healthy, physically not healthy,

497
00:28:26,806 --> 00:28:29,776
um, really struggling with who I was.

498
00:28:31,201 --> 00:28:34,621
What I had to offer because you
know what I had had to offer.

499
00:28:34,621 --> 00:28:38,821
I had been built for 10 years
in these very strong years of

500
00:28:38,821 --> 00:28:43,531
pageant and then just felt like
I had nothing last year to offer.

501
00:28:43,531 --> 00:28:43,621
You

502
00:28:43,951 --> 00:28:44,761
were anymore

503
00:28:44,941 --> 00:28:49,651
kinda, which I would
probably suggest to you.

504
00:28:49,651 --> 00:28:51,241
You probably didn't see that.

505
00:28:52,786 --> 00:28:53,296
I had no idea.

506
00:28:53,296 --> 00:28:56,776
Just the same way that we're really
good at hiding what we're going through.

507
00:28:57,136 --> 00:28:58,906
You're so good at masking.

508
00:28:59,506 --> 00:29:00,136
We are.

509
00:29:00,136 --> 00:29:03,226
Especially when we're in, when
we're in pain or we need help,

510
00:29:03,226 --> 00:29:09,466
we don't want other people to
know that we're having a problem.

511
00:29:09,556 --> 00:29:10,006
Yeah.

512
00:29:10,006 --> 00:29:11,296
I think that.

513
00:29:11,761 --> 00:29:14,641
Especially when you're going
through long term things.

514
00:29:15,181 --> 00:29:18,151
Like I could be like, Hey, I have
covid, and then 10 days later

515
00:29:18,151 --> 00:29:20,551
I'm like, I want it, you know?

516
00:29:20,551 --> 00:29:21,571
I conquered it.

517
00:29:21,661 --> 00:29:22,081
Yeah.

518
00:29:22,081 --> 00:29:28,501
But like when we're going through long
term slogging through the trenches.

519
00:29:29,716 --> 00:29:31,006
Of humanity.

520
00:29:31,426 --> 00:29:34,816
We don't want to admit as
humans that we are weak.

521
00:29:34,816 --> 00:29:38,716
And I think that goes back to survival
of the fittest like it is in our

522
00:29:38,716 --> 00:29:41,926
nature to not talk about those things.

523
00:29:41,986 --> 00:29:47,386
Um, I actually have really
not talked about it very much.

524
00:29:47,986 --> 00:29:52,396
And I hope that, and I'm thankful for
this opportunity because I kind of get

525
00:29:52,396 --> 00:29:56,836
to like just stick my toe in a little
bit to see where I'm at about sharing,

526
00:29:57,766 --> 00:30:01,396
uh, because it has been extremely hard.

527
00:30:03,256 --> 00:30:07,546
But I finally feel like there are some,
some building blocks that are starting

528
00:30:07,546 --> 00:30:15,406
to, to, I feel this positive upward
momentum of built building in this

529
00:30:15,406 --> 00:30:20,056
new way, which is really interesting
because I had my pageant platform of

530
00:30:20,056 --> 00:30:25,036
build it beautiful before I was even
seeing the results of my own build.

531
00:30:26,296 --> 00:30:29,506
Again, 'cause somebody came
in and knocked it all down.

532
00:30:31,306 --> 00:30:31,696
Right?

533
00:30:31,756 --> 00:30:33,166
A lot of renovation

534
00:30:33,226 --> 00:30:33,976
was going on.

535
00:30:35,236 --> 00:30:38,956
I feel like I'm still kind
of going through that.

536
00:30:39,946 --> 00:30:43,697
Um, yeah, there's a lot,
there's a lot that I,

537
00:30:46,636 --> 00:30:48,766
I've just tried to figure
out what I even want.

538
00:30:49,156 --> 00:30:54,856
Like I quit teaching, I
be a teacher, but, um.

539
00:30:55,546 --> 00:31:00,676
Part of it is because my dad had almost
passed away in April, and I knew that

540
00:31:00,676 --> 00:31:07,756
he was, I knew it was gonna happen
and that was gonna hit me hard, and

541
00:31:07,756 --> 00:31:15,316
my mom had passed at the beginning of
the school year, and I just realized

542
00:31:15,526 --> 00:31:18,046
after losing both parents, um.

543
00:31:22,741 --> 00:31:27,991
The what I'm leaving
behind now, what, sorry.

544
00:31:28,261 --> 00:31:32,491
What I am leaving behind are the
memories I'm making with them right now.

545
00:31:34,141 --> 00:31:39,721
So what memories am I wanting
to leave behind for my kids?

546
00:31:40,741 --> 00:31:44,851
Or is my dad would say like, what
legacy are you leaving behind?

547
00:31:45,391 --> 00:31:45,721
Yeah.

548
00:31:46,261 --> 00:31:46,651
Yeah.

549
00:31:48,046 --> 00:31:52,096
And teaching was stressful.

550
00:31:53,086 --> 00:31:53,896
The shingles.

551
00:31:55,246 --> 00:31:55,846
Oh yeah.

552
00:31:55,846 --> 00:32:01,606
Your outward, the outward manifestation
of all your inward and my degrees.

553
00:32:01,606 --> 00:32:04,306
Like that's the, I just hung those up.

554
00:32:06,106 --> 00:32:07,996
One of those, two of those.

555
00:32:08,056 --> 00:32:08,326
Hold on.

556
00:32:08,326 --> 00:32:08,596
Wait,

557
00:32:11,446 --> 00:32:12,316
2014.

558
00:32:15,001 --> 00:32:15,481
10 years.

559
00:32:15,481 --> 00:32:17,941
It took me 10 years to hang up my degrees.

560
00:32:18,991 --> 00:32:20,551
Like I just, you don't,

561
00:32:22,951 --> 00:32:26,281
I kind of didn't feel like I could
be all braggy about it and be

562
00:32:26,281 --> 00:32:27,781
like, look what I did, you know?

563
00:32:29,716 --> 00:32:35,536
Which I feel like going through
pageantry, but I think it happens

564
00:32:36,166 --> 00:32:38,356
in our careers too, and little bits.

565
00:32:38,356 --> 00:32:42,976
But I feel like pageantry is like
this catalyst to exponentially make

566
00:32:42,976 --> 00:32:45,436
us look at our personal barriers.

567
00:32:46,276 --> 00:32:47,176
Yes.

568
00:32:47,236 --> 00:32:50,686
And get the heck over them for real.

569
00:32:50,956 --> 00:32:52,756
Like, like.

570
00:32:54,046 --> 00:33:02,296
I just in that way of like, wait, I can
be proud of what I have accomplished

571
00:33:02,296 --> 00:33:08,746
and what I have gone through and, and I
can tell people what I have accomplished

572
00:33:08,746 --> 00:33:10,756
without looking like I'm bragging.

573
00:33:11,386 --> 00:33:14,656
It is because I can now.

574
00:33:15,781 --> 00:33:19,891
Confidently say like, I have
something to contribute to you

575
00:33:19,951 --> 00:33:21,361
because of what I've been through.

576
00:33:21,691 --> 00:33:30,421
My mess qualifies me to share
with you and to serve you.

577
00:33:32,161 --> 00:33:32,851
Yeah.

578
00:33:34,531 --> 00:33:38,461
Well, and it's like we're
all so relatable, right?

579
00:33:40,651 --> 00:33:42,061
And we forget like.

580
00:33:42,421 --> 00:33:47,011
These people have these incredible
lives and we, we see all their highlight

581
00:33:47,011 --> 00:33:52,621
reels and we, like with me, people
kept talking about how resilient I am.

582
00:33:52,741 --> 00:33:53,641
You're so resilient.

583
00:33:53,641 --> 00:33:54,511
You're so resilient.

584
00:33:54,511 --> 00:33:55,501
You're so resilient.

585
00:33:57,721 --> 00:33:59,131
Well, I went through crap.

586
00:34:00,301 --> 00:34:03,511
You're forgetting all the
crap that I had to go through.

587
00:34:03,571 --> 00:34:07,351
Like being resilient means you
had to go through hard stuff like

588
00:34:08,161 --> 00:34:08,641
Yeah.

589
00:34:08,986 --> 00:34:09,166
Yeah.

590
00:34:09,166 --> 00:34:13,006
It qualified you, it gave
you that characteristic.

591
00:34:13,366 --> 00:34:13,516
Yeah.

592
00:34:14,026 --> 00:34:15,646
But then where was my support?

593
00:34:15,646 --> 00:34:16,576
Like, I still need

594
00:34:16,576 --> 00:34:21,196
support just because I went through a
hard time and I am resilient, doesn't

595
00:34:21,196 --> 00:34:22,786
mean I'm a hundred percent okay now.

596
00:34:24,586 --> 00:34:25,456
Right, right.

597
00:34:25,516 --> 00:34:27,976
But I also, well, we still,
we still need community.

598
00:34:28,546 --> 00:34:30,106
We still need connection.

599
00:34:30,496 --> 00:34:31,006
It doesn't

600
00:34:31,006 --> 00:34:33,646
mean that, um.

601
00:34:38,911 --> 00:34:42,871
It also doesn't mean that I
can't hold space for you and

602
00:34:42,871 --> 00:34:44,461
be there for your hard stuff.

603
00:34:47,101 --> 00:34:47,371
Yeah.

604
00:34:47,671 --> 00:34:55,651
And depending on, depending on where your
capacity is, that also looks different

605
00:34:55,681 --> 00:34:58,411
per circumstances and per person too.

606
00:34:58,411 --> 00:34:58,861
Right?

607
00:34:59,671 --> 00:35:00,601
Well, and I think.

608
00:35:02,131 --> 00:35:04,351
Sometimes people get, um,

609
00:35:06,511 --> 00:35:07,891
like with the pageant,

610
00:35:10,231 --> 00:35:16,411
I'm just kind of noticing from like
an outside perspective a little

611
00:35:16,411 --> 00:35:18,301
bit, kind of an outside perspective.

612
00:35:18,301 --> 00:35:18,811
I don't know.

613
00:35:19,231 --> 00:35:23,431
Um, just 'cause I've done it before
and now there's some new people

614
00:35:23,431 --> 00:35:25,291
that I'm watching go through it and.

615
00:35:26,251 --> 00:35:31,141
It's like, what is the focus
on, like what are they?

616
00:35:33,001 --> 00:35:37,321
Are they worried about the clothes or are
they worried about the hair and makeup?

617
00:35:37,651 --> 00:35:41,161
Are they trying to push too hard?

618
00:35:42,211 --> 00:35:44,191
Are they showing up as themselves?

619
00:35:44,851 --> 00:35:49,051
Like are you going over the top
and stressing yourself out and

620
00:35:49,051 --> 00:35:51,541
showing up for things that you
don't need to be showing up for?

621
00:35:51,541 --> 00:35:51,871
Because.

622
00:35:52,591 --> 00:35:59,101
You feel obligated or are you doing it
because it's part of your purpose, right?

623
00:35:59,101 --> 00:36:02,101
You don't have to go out of your way.

624
00:36:02,101 --> 00:36:04,411
And I think that's kind of
hard for some of them to see.

625
00:36:04,411 --> 00:36:07,561
You don't have to like go out of
your way and do some big huge,

626
00:36:08,071 --> 00:36:10,411
um, fundraising event or whatever.

627
00:36:10,411 --> 00:36:13,351
Like, you don't have to do that if
you're just doing it for the pageant.

628
00:36:14,911 --> 00:36:20,701
Like, everything I'm doing now is, um.

629
00:36:21,616 --> 00:36:22,546
You wanna continue?

630
00:36:22,996 --> 00:36:23,896
It's what I wanna

631
00:36:23,896 --> 00:36:26,596
continue doing and it kind
of helps me figure that out.

632
00:36:26,596 --> 00:36:29,056
'cause Whoopsies, I did that backwards.

633
00:36:29,866 --> 00:36:35,656
My, I'm not teaching anymore, but I have
a master's in curriculum and instruction.

634
00:36:35,686 --> 00:36:37,276
So what the heck am I gonna do now?

635
00:36:39,616 --> 00:36:44,506
I am gonna work with nonprofits
and do public speaking and I don't

636
00:36:44,506 --> 00:36:45,496
know, whatever the heck happened.

637
00:36:45,496 --> 00:36:45,556
Yeah.

638
00:36:46,546 --> 00:36:50,281
But even if you have that master's
degree in that, at that time of your

639
00:36:50,281 --> 00:36:52,231
life, that's where you needed to be.

640
00:36:53,611 --> 00:36:53,671
Yeah.

641
00:36:53,701 --> 00:36:57,991
There are some people who don't ever even
use the degree that they were given and

642
00:36:57,991 --> 00:36:59,521
their life takes 'em on this journey.

643
00:36:59,521 --> 00:37:01,351
We have to be so careful.

644
00:37:01,681 --> 00:37:09,421
We don't stick ourselves to inside this
box of this is who I am and this is

645
00:37:09,421 --> 00:37:12,241
only who I am and this is where I'll be.

646
00:37:12,751 --> 00:37:13,201
Yeah.

647
00:37:14,101 --> 00:37:15,871
It's not in the box.

648
00:37:17,191 --> 00:37:17,641
Yeah.

649
00:37:19,111 --> 00:37:19,441
Yeah.

650
00:37:21,391 --> 00:37:26,101
I think, I think that I would hope,
and this is where the pageantry

651
00:37:26,101 --> 00:37:28,381
gets a little bit sketchy, right?

652
00:37:28,381 --> 00:37:32,701
And this is why you can't rely on
the pageant to dictate your worth

653
00:37:32,731 --> 00:37:38,431
because you go into some year, so
two years, I've had five judges.

654
00:37:38,431 --> 00:37:40,651
In the middle year I had seven.

655
00:37:41,221 --> 00:37:43,111
Oh, there were seven judges that year.

656
00:37:44,251 --> 00:37:48,241
So many interviews, it was a lot.

657
00:37:49,321 --> 00:37:54,931
But if you go into these judges,
I get three minutes to tell them

658
00:37:54,931 --> 00:37:56,941
who I am and what I'm about.

659
00:37:57,031 --> 00:37:57,451
Right.

660
00:37:58,231 --> 00:37:59,041
And you're up against

661
00:37:59,131 --> 00:38:00,331
however many women,

662
00:38:01,021 --> 00:38:01,531
right?

663
00:38:01,561 --> 00:38:03,871
If those judges don't see.

664
00:38:04,816 --> 00:38:07,756
Those who are genuine
versus those who are not.

665
00:38:07,756 --> 00:38:14,176
If they don't have the talent
to decipher between genuine

666
00:38:14,176 --> 00:38:15,736
talent or not genuine talent.

667
00:38:15,766 --> 00:38:17,296
'cause who knows who the judges are.

668
00:38:17,296 --> 00:38:18,646
We don't get to choose them.

669
00:38:19,186 --> 00:38:20,086
They're just picked.

670
00:38:20,656 --> 00:38:21,616
We don't So like Right.

671
00:38:21,796 --> 00:38:23,746
And they shouldn't know us either.

672
00:38:24,046 --> 00:38:24,196
Yeah.

673
00:38:24,226 --> 00:38:29,206
But if they can't pick that out and
they pick somebody who is underdeveloped

674
00:38:29,206 --> 00:38:31,576
and not ready for that, and.

675
00:38:32,746 --> 00:38:33,976
That's on the judges.

676
00:38:33,976 --> 00:38:37,456
So there's, there's a saying in pageantry,
which you've heard from our directors.

677
00:38:37,756 --> 00:38:40,546
Different day, different
judge, different girl.

678
00:38:41,506 --> 00:38:41,776
Yep.

679
00:38:42,136 --> 00:38:43,816
And it truly is that.

680
00:38:43,816 --> 00:38:48,346
So if you're only doing things
to make the pageant look good, or

681
00:38:48,346 --> 00:38:51,736
your pageant run look good, but
that's not really who you are.

682
00:38:52,606 --> 00:38:57,226
You are going to, that person is going
to have a really rough time coming off

683
00:38:57,226 --> 00:38:59,746
that pageant if they don't win real.

684
00:39:00,766 --> 00:39:04,246
And I believe that if they do
win, they're gonna have a really

685
00:39:04,246 --> 00:39:09,226
hard time continuing to push that
a hundred percent consistently.

686
00:39:09,226 --> 00:39:14,056
Because as humans, we just cannot run
at a hundred percent all the time.

687
00:39:14,386 --> 00:39:14,896
We can't.

688
00:39:14,896 --> 00:39:15,736
We need, it's this,

689
00:39:15,736 --> 00:39:16,186
right?

690
00:39:16,186 --> 00:39:21,976
It's just, there's ebbs and flows, and
if we're always showing up as perfect,

691
00:39:22,246 --> 00:39:26,926
we're gonna really have a rough time
showing up as perfect all the time.

692
00:39:28,816 --> 00:39:31,006
That's how I ended up
with shingles in my face.

693
00:39:31,036 --> 00:39:31,126
Mm-hmm.

694
00:39:31,366 --> 00:39:35,806
'cause I was doing too much and it
was because of like, that I needed

695
00:39:35,806 --> 00:39:41,026
to show, I needed to prove myself, I
needed to show I could handle all the

696
00:39:41,026 --> 00:39:42,616
things and I could juggle everything.

697
00:39:43,876 --> 00:39:44,296
Yeah.

698
00:39:44,776 --> 00:39:48,796
Well, and, and we feel pressured to
do that, whether that's something

699
00:39:48,796 --> 00:39:50,416
we're conscious of or not.

700
00:39:51,046 --> 00:39:54,586
I think women specifically
feel pressured because.

701
00:39:55,516 --> 00:40:00,976
Via our social media, or even just in
conversations with people around us, we

702
00:40:00,976 --> 00:40:06,076
see women pushing that limit and we think
that that is actually what is normal.

703
00:40:07,186 --> 00:40:09,166
In all reality, that's
not necessarily healthy.

704
00:40:09,196 --> 00:40:14,236
Just because we see that doesn't mean, I
mean, just like you, you were pushing for

705
00:40:14,236 --> 00:40:19,666
that perfection, but then your body was
showing that like, uh, hey, step back.

706
00:40:19,756 --> 00:40:23,866
And for me, I was pushing for
perfection and then my body had to

707
00:40:23,866 --> 00:40:27,526
renovate my life, had to renovate
'cause I couldn't keep it up.

708
00:40:28,696 --> 00:40:29,836
Sometimes it's okay to

709
00:40:29,836 --> 00:40:32,926
just knock everything down and start over.

710
00:40:35,491 --> 00:40:39,751
You have to have that, like
the solid, solid foundation.

711
00:40:39,751 --> 00:40:45,331
The solid shelf where everything's
just gonna, and we have had, I don't

712
00:40:45,331 --> 00:40:49,981
remember what title holders it was, but
there are a couple misses just recently

713
00:40:49,981 --> 00:40:56,551
that miss, I think that just stepped
down because their values didn't align

714
00:40:56,551 --> 00:40:58,231
with a pageant system or whatever.

715
00:40:58,741 --> 00:40:59,701
Yeah, we've seen that.

716
00:41:00,271 --> 00:41:00,571
Yeah.

717
00:41:00,931 --> 00:41:01,501
But like.

718
00:41:03,211 --> 00:41:10,381
This journey should be helping
you catapult your life and

719
00:41:10,381 --> 00:41:11,701
what you're already doing.

720
00:41:11,821 --> 00:41:14,161
And you shouldn't be like, I
wanna win the crown, so I'm gonna

721
00:41:14,161 --> 00:41:15,631
do this, this, this, and this.

722
00:41:15,631 --> 00:41:18,211
And thank goodness we don't see that.

723
00:41:19,036 --> 00:41:19,726
Often in

724
00:41:19,726 --> 00:41:25,516
ours, like our little, yeah, our, our
directors aren't pushing for a winner.

725
00:41:25,576 --> 00:41:29,116
They're pushing to develop women,
and I love that there are other

726
00:41:29,116 --> 00:41:31,426
states that they push for winners.

727
00:41:31,456 --> 00:41:31,516
Yeah.

728
00:41:32,836 --> 00:41:34,696
Well, and I love the community that we've

729
00:41:34,696 --> 00:41:39,796
created because we wanna get together
every month and the whole time I

730
00:41:39,796 --> 00:41:41,806
was like, that crown was too heavy.

731
00:41:41,806 --> 00:41:43,636
I knew it wasn't gonna fit on my head.

732
00:41:43,966 --> 00:41:45,496
I knew it wasn't for me.

733
00:41:46,561 --> 00:41:52,711
I was up on that stage and you that
your ass, I was applauding like hell

734
00:41:52,741 --> 00:41:57,541
for every single person that was
getting because they worked, they worked

735
00:41:57,541 --> 00:42:02,761
hard and it really is a celebration
of how incredible Yeah, women are.

736
00:42:03,691 --> 00:42:07,681
Well, I have always told people,
and going through this system

737
00:42:07,681 --> 00:42:11,701
myself, multiple years, I've told
people like what you see on stage

738
00:42:11,701 --> 00:42:14,791
is maybe 5% of what they have done.

739
00:42:15,376 --> 00:42:20,716
Yeah, and we is the contestants.

740
00:42:21,106 --> 00:42:27,646
Know the 90 per 90, 95% of what
other contestants have done and watch

741
00:42:27,646 --> 00:42:29,416
them grow and change and develop.

742
00:42:29,416 --> 00:42:33,196
And I know there's a couple contestants
this year that I'm enjoying watching

743
00:42:33,466 --> 00:42:40,306
their first time, like all the, the messy
understanding and the lingo and the, the,

744
00:42:40,666 --> 00:42:42,976
you know, the butt glue and the boob tape.

745
00:42:45,471 --> 00:42:48,741
That make a difference in
your, in, in how you show up.

746
00:42:48,741 --> 00:42:49,881
Just little things like that.

747
00:42:49,881 --> 00:42:55,461
And I love watching like the light
bulbs start to turn on, but like in that

748
00:42:55,461 --> 00:42:59,211
system, when we're on that stage and
they're in and they, they bring everybody

749
00:42:59,211 --> 00:43:03,261
out and they're, they're announcing
the winners, like of the costume and

750
00:43:03,261 --> 00:43:06,201
the winners of Miss Congeniality and
the winner of the best interview.

751
00:43:06,201 --> 00:43:11,721
Like only those women on that
stage and maybe key members

752
00:43:11,721 --> 00:43:13,311
of people's families know.

753
00:43:14,311 --> 00:43:21,091
The refining that, that that lady has
gone through for the past eight months

754
00:43:21,091 --> 00:43:24,661
to make it to that stage alone, right?

755
00:43:25,171 --> 00:43:25,531
Yeah.

756
00:43:26,761 --> 00:43:31,261
So we have, we have to validate each other
by being each other's supporters that

757
00:43:31,261 --> 00:43:36,001
way, because if it was only for the crown,
we'd all stand up there and like poke

758
00:43:36,001 --> 00:43:39,631
our hip out and put our hands on our hips
and just fold our arms and puff and puff.

759
00:43:39,631 --> 00:43:40,081
But like.

760
00:43:41,146 --> 00:43:46,066
I think we're validating the, yes,
we're validating that journey of

761
00:43:46,066 --> 00:43:50,206
those women by showing up for them,
even though we know that Crown is not

762
00:43:50,206 --> 00:43:51,676
going to be on our head that night.

763
00:43:52,126 --> 00:43:52,456
Yeah.

764
00:43:53,056 --> 00:43:58,036
Well, and I was so lost last year
with what to write 'cause I had to

765
00:43:58,036 --> 00:44:01,216
write what they were gonna talk about
while I'm walking around on the stage

766
00:44:01,216 --> 00:44:03,316
and I'm like, I dunno what to say.

767
00:44:04,006 --> 00:44:07,396
Yeah, it's never been my
favorite to talk about myself.

768
00:44:07,816 --> 00:44:07,876
Way,

769
00:44:08,416 --> 00:44:10,906
but it's like, what do I
want people to know about me?

770
00:44:10,906 --> 00:44:11,731
It's just kind of mm-hmm.

771
00:44:11,816 --> 00:44:16,486
It's less intimidating and Right when
it was over Amanda Brady, well, I think

772
00:44:16,486 --> 00:44:19,336
everyone was worried that I was gonna
have like that big pageant let down.

773
00:44:19,366 --> 00:44:23,086
I didn't, I, I had, I was
like, Ugh, I'm so tired.

774
00:44:23,086 --> 00:44:24,766
I just felt like I had a hangover.

775
00:44:25,036 --> 00:44:29,386
But emotionally, I was like, I grabbed
Amanda Brady, she's like one of

776
00:44:29,386 --> 00:44:32,956
the former winners, or she grabbed
me, I grabbed her, she grabbed me,

777
00:44:32,956 --> 00:44:34,966
one of the two, and I was like.

778
00:44:36,286 --> 00:44:38,026
I wanna quit my job and do this again.

779
00:44:38,086 --> 00:44:39,556
And she was like, slow down.

780
00:44:40,756 --> 00:44:41,626
But I did.

781
00:44:44,176 --> 00:44:46,906
But not because, not
because of the pageant.

782
00:44:47,926 --> 00:44:54,976
Because the pageant helped me realize
that the direction my life was going is

783
00:44:54,976 --> 00:44:56,986
not the direction that I was meant to go.

784
00:44:58,186 --> 00:45:01,366
I, there's like a magnet
that's pulling me and I just.

785
00:45:01,846 --> 00:45:04,336
I follow whatever that pole is.

786
00:45:04,426 --> 00:45:08,416
So now, because I've been able to
do the peja, I have some really cool

787
00:45:08,416 --> 00:45:15,316
opportunities, um, and I've been able
to heal and really figure out like,

788
00:45:15,316 --> 00:45:18,436
what, what the heck I'm doing right.

789
00:45:18,496 --> 00:45:19,726
I love that.

790
00:45:19,786 --> 00:45:23,656
And you know what, in four
years, five years, that might

791
00:45:23,656 --> 00:45:25,696
not be the right pull anymore.

792
00:45:25,756 --> 00:45:32,566
You know, like we, we, we draw into
these opportunities and there it

793
00:45:32,956 --> 00:45:34,936
really is just a winding journey.

794
00:45:35,356 --> 00:45:38,386
I. This is not the end all be all for me.

795
00:45:38,386 --> 00:45:42,436
Even like, and that comes full circle,
like there's so much more outside of

796
00:45:42,436 --> 00:45:47,596
this that if this doesn't happen, I'm
just thankful I was able to be part of

797
00:45:47,596 --> 00:45:50,296
it to, to give me the next opportunity.

798
00:45:50,686 --> 00:45:53,866
Yeah, I'm thankful 'cause I've had,

799
00:45:55,936 --> 00:45:59,416
because of my sash, I've
been able to meet some really

800
00:45:59,416 --> 00:46:00,886
incredible people and make some.

801
00:46:01,516 --> 00:46:04,906
Connections and we need that
there power in that sash.

802
00:46:05,626 --> 00:46:05,836
Yeah.

803
00:46:06,916 --> 00:46:08,026
And we need that village.

804
00:46:08,026 --> 00:46:09,196
We need that community.

805
00:46:09,766 --> 00:46:14,026
So I think it's helping, it's
kind of helping women catapult.

806
00:46:14,956 --> 00:46:16,216
It's like that, what is it?

807
00:46:17,206 --> 00:46:19,726
It's kind of like a
MLM, but it not really.

808
00:46:22,546 --> 00:46:22,786
For good

809
00:46:22,786 --> 00:46:22,906
things.

810
00:46:25,036 --> 00:46:25,816
Incredible.

811
00:46:25,816 --> 00:46:30,046
How we are pulling like-minded
women to be together.

812
00:46:30,286 --> 00:46:30,766
Yes.

813
00:46:30,826 --> 00:46:31,996
It, it is, it is.

814
00:46:32,236 --> 00:46:36,016
There is something to be said about you
become like the people you hang around.

815
00:46:36,346 --> 00:46:36,436
Mm-hmm.

816
00:46:36,736 --> 00:46:42,016
And you know, I, I talked a little bit
with you here about how my life upended.

817
00:46:42,471 --> 00:46:47,361
Well, deciding if I wanted to do the
pageant this year, this was my decision

818
00:46:48,111 --> 00:46:52,941
because things had changed so much
and because I was now lacking a tribe,

819
00:46:52,971 --> 00:46:58,221
because I lost my, my students and
my studios and, and my clients who

820
00:46:58,251 --> 00:46:59,781
be, you know, were becoming friends.

821
00:47:00,706 --> 00:47:05,026
I made the decision to do the pageant
this year because I knew that if I

822
00:47:05,026 --> 00:47:09,406
wanted to be successful, I needed to be
around women who wanted to be successful,

823
00:47:09,496 --> 00:47:12,376
and this was where I decided to go.

824
00:47:12,766 --> 00:47:13,186
Yeah.

825
00:47:13,726 --> 00:47:19,666
Well, and now, because you're not
doing your classes anymore, is

826
00:47:19,696 --> 00:47:22,996
this where you started with BYU

827
00:47:24,676 --> 00:47:25,696
doing mentoring?

828
00:47:25,996 --> 00:47:26,446
Yeah.

829
00:47:27,121 --> 00:47:29,191
No, I think I would've done that anyway.

830
00:47:29,791 --> 00:47:34,861
Um, it, it, it, BYU mentoring did
not come out of my sash at all,

831
00:47:35,491 --> 00:47:37,141
um, which is really interesting.

832
00:47:37,231 --> 00:47:42,391
But it has stemmed some opportunities when
people look at my profile to then further.

833
00:47:43,456 --> 00:47:44,296
Engage with me.

834
00:47:44,296 --> 00:47:50,056
So it has led to opportunities, but,
um, I, I was telling you before we

835
00:47:50,056 --> 00:47:52,816
started recording, so maybe I'll,
I'll explain this a little bit.

836
00:47:53,086 --> 00:48:00,226
I mentor BYU students in, they can contact
me through the, it's called BYU Connect,

837
00:48:00,856 --> 00:48:03,316
any BYU student in any of the locations.

838
00:48:03,316 --> 00:48:08,776
So Idaho, Hawaii, um, enzyme College
in Salt Lake, and then, uh, BYU

839
00:48:08,776 --> 00:48:11,326
Provo, anybody who is a student.

840
00:48:11,826 --> 00:48:17,616
Or is an alumni, they have this
networking program and um, I signed

841
00:48:17,616 --> 00:48:22,326
up for that and was probably one
of the first 50 users of that.

842
00:48:22,866 --> 00:48:27,276
And students contact me and
I get to give them advice.

843
00:48:27,366 --> 00:48:30,276
Uh, they see I've owned
multiple businesses.

844
00:48:30,276 --> 00:48:33,786
They see I was in the business
school, but also that I do dance.

845
00:48:33,786 --> 00:48:36,636
And then, you know, they see my
profile picture with my sash.

846
00:48:36,636 --> 00:48:39,816
And that has led to, like I
said, other opportunities, but.

847
00:48:40,786 --> 00:48:47,476
When this opportunity to be a mentor
came up, all I could think about

848
00:48:47,476 --> 00:48:52,726
was how much I could have used
a mentor when I was 18 years old

849
00:48:52,726 --> 00:48:55,156
and 19 years old and 20 years old.

850
00:48:55,276 --> 00:49:00,046
You know, the five years I was in college,
even when I was married and still in

851
00:49:00,046 --> 00:49:04,786
college, I could have used a mentor to say
like, Hey, I've been where you've been.

852
00:49:05,056 --> 00:49:08,146
I'm 10 to 15 years out of school and.

853
00:49:08,761 --> 00:49:11,106
These are the things I
would've done different.

854
00:49:11,866 --> 00:49:12,346
Yeah.

855
00:49:12,526 --> 00:49:16,396
Or these are the things I would've taken
advantage of, or these are the things

856
00:49:16,396 --> 00:49:18,586
I wouldn't have worried about so much.

857
00:49:18,946 --> 00:49:19,336
Yeah.

858
00:49:19,396 --> 00:49:22,426
And um, and so I get to do that.

859
00:49:22,606 --> 00:49:28,666
I actually met with a student who is
doing, um, online studies through BYU.

860
00:49:28,936 --> 00:49:33,466
It's called BYU Pathways,
and he was in Zimbabwe.

861
00:49:33,746 --> 00:49:34,166
What,

862
00:49:34,166 --> 00:49:35,366
this was just last week.

863
00:49:35,666 --> 00:49:36,986
Yeah, so, okay.

864
00:49:37,136 --> 00:49:42,836
I met a student from Zimbabwe who
is trying to get any sort of smaller

865
00:49:42,836 --> 00:49:49,526
degree so that he can open his own
coding company from Zimbabwe to be

866
00:49:49,526 --> 00:49:51,416
able to support a future family.

867
00:49:53,506 --> 00:50:01,186
He was in a cafe paying for internet
by the hour to be able to meet with

868
00:50:01,576 --> 00:50:06,196
other BYU alumni to learn from them
what their experiences have been.

869
00:50:08,206 --> 00:50:14,686
So I feel, I, I feel this pull that
no matter what I learn in life,

870
00:50:14,836 --> 00:50:18,436
I have a responsibility to share
what I learn with other people.

871
00:50:19,021 --> 00:50:24,421
To better their lives because I didn't
have that myself, and I've always felt

872
00:50:24,421 --> 00:50:26,281
that way when it came to my health.

873
00:50:26,311 --> 00:50:29,611
I'll share anything about hormones
and women's health because I

874
00:50:29,611 --> 00:50:30,811
went through my own trials.

875
00:50:31,081 --> 00:50:34,741
I'll share anything about business
because man, I wish somebody would've

876
00:50:34,741 --> 00:50:38,401
told me how to start a business instead
of me having to figure it out on my own.

877
00:50:38,881 --> 00:50:42,001
Like all of the things that
I have learned on my own, you

878
00:50:42,001 --> 00:50:47,461
know, we have a responsibility as
humans to help somebody else out.

879
00:50:49,366 --> 00:50:50,896
I'm gonna tell you something crazy.

880
00:50:52,936 --> 00:50:57,886
My dad used to work at BYU,
that's where he retired.

881
00:50:57,886 --> 00:50:59,506
He went to school there for a long time.

882
00:51:00,016 --> 00:51:03,856
Um, he graduated with his MBA
and then he went and did like

883
00:51:03,856 --> 00:51:07,336
other business things, right?

884
00:51:07,341 --> 00:51:07,741
Mm-hmm.

885
00:51:08,121 --> 00:51:13,216
Um, but he retired from
BYU and his job was.

886
00:51:14,416 --> 00:51:16,816
A recruiter for graduating MBAs.

887
00:51:17,446 --> 00:51:18,016
Awesome.

888
00:51:18,256 --> 00:51:24,586
So he like would travel around the world
and connect businesses with students with

889
00:51:24,586 --> 00:51:25,126
the MBA

890
00:51:25,126 --> 00:51:25,576
program.

891
00:51:25,726 --> 00:51:25,936
Yeah,

892
00:51:26,926 --> 00:51:31,096
and he would, his favorite thing
was doing retreats, but like.

893
00:51:32,701 --> 00:51:36,271
Rafting, whitewater rafting
and hiking and stuff.

894
00:51:36,271 --> 00:51:37,321
Venture retreats.

895
00:51:37,321 --> 00:51:37,621
Yeah.

896
00:51:38,101 --> 00:51:42,961
There is something to be said about
doing something hard in nature that,

897
00:51:43,771 --> 00:51:49,201
uh, patterns, it's, it patterns us
for better resilience in the business

898
00:51:49,201 --> 00:51:51,241
world, in our normal everyday lives.

899
00:51:51,241 --> 00:51:51,691
Right.

900
00:51:52,141 --> 00:51:52,711
Real.

901
00:51:52,771 --> 00:51:53,551
That's really cool.

902
00:51:53,551 --> 00:51:54,001
Amanda.

903
00:51:54,006 --> 00:51:54,781
I, um.

904
00:51:56,101 --> 00:51:59,371
I think that the MBA programs
are really incredible.

905
00:51:59,611 --> 00:52:05,101
My husband went through the
executive MBA program, um, where

906
00:52:05,551 --> 00:52:09,841
you still, you're, you're, you're
not looking to land a big job.

907
00:52:09,841 --> 00:52:13,201
You have a job already and have
been in that job for a time.

908
00:52:13,261 --> 00:52:17,011
And then, you know, you go
through this MBA program to help

909
00:52:17,011 --> 00:52:19,021
you be better in your position.

910
00:52:19,651 --> 00:52:20,821
And, um.

911
00:52:21,241 --> 00:52:24,901
It was the most incredible
experience to watch.

912
00:52:25,291 --> 00:52:30,421
It was kind of like what we do in
pageantry, that self-growth and self, um,

913
00:52:30,451 --> 00:52:36,151
change within that was incredible for my
husband to go through and us as a family.

914
00:52:36,421 --> 00:52:36,661
So

915
00:52:37,651 --> 00:52:37,951
it's amazing.

916
00:52:38,761 --> 00:52:40,591
Yeah, they have a really
incredible program there.

917
00:52:40,621 --> 00:52:46,441
I just, I didn't realize how, what he
did, 'cause I got to write some of his.

918
00:52:48,661 --> 00:52:50,611
Life sketch, that's what it was called.

919
00:52:50,641 --> 00:52:54,421
Me and my three sisters all stood up
there and did, talked about different

920
00:52:54,421 --> 00:52:58,321
parts of his life and I got to
talk about his business, whatever.

921
00:52:58,321 --> 00:53:01,051
But I knew him as the
scary guy in the office.

922
00:53:01,111 --> 00:53:01,531
You know,

923
00:53:03,751 --> 00:53:07,201
he was always in his den and he was
always working and I didn't wanna

924
00:53:07,201 --> 00:53:16,681
bother him, but like when he got older
and like I was out of the house and.

925
00:53:17,161 --> 00:53:18,211
All kinds of things.

926
00:53:18,211 --> 00:53:23,251
He was able to really be my dad again,
you know, and like show up how he

927
00:53:23,251 --> 00:53:25,231
wanted to, which was really cool.

928
00:53:26,941 --> 00:53:27,271
Yeah.

929
00:53:28,021 --> 00:53:28,531
The legacy.

930
00:53:28,531 --> 00:53:32,641
Yeah, I think, I think that there's
so much more to our parents than

931
00:53:32,761 --> 00:53:37,291
we realize until they're gone
and we discover the sides of them

932
00:53:37,291 --> 00:53:41,941
that in our innocence we missed.

933
00:53:42,481 --> 00:53:42,871
Yeah.

934
00:53:44,161 --> 00:53:47,731
In our own needs or in our own
perspective, we missed of them.

935
00:53:48,211 --> 00:53:55,291
When my mother's parents passed away,
she found this beautiful file full of all

936
00:53:55,291 --> 00:53:59,011
the love letters that they had written
back and forth to each other, and she

937
00:53:59,011 --> 00:54:03,181
said it really opened my eyes to the
relationship that I didn't get to see.

938
00:54:03,181 --> 00:54:04,291
That's what she said.

939
00:54:04,291 --> 00:54:06,121
You know, like I didn't know.

940
00:54:07,591 --> 00:54:13,051
I didn't know that they were that
invested romantically with each

941
00:54:13,051 --> 00:54:14,761
other because I didn't see that.

942
00:54:14,761 --> 00:54:15,061
Right.

943
00:54:15,061 --> 00:54:19,981
And so I think about what are my kids
going to discover of me, you know?

944
00:54:20,341 --> 00:54:20,701
Yeah.

945
00:54:20,791 --> 00:54:27,271
When, when I'm gone that they go, oh,
there's more to this person than just mom.

946
00:54:27,661 --> 00:54:28,021
Right.

947
00:54:30,031 --> 00:54:30,781
Um.

948
00:54:31,126 --> 00:54:35,326
I'm gonna get ready to wrap up with
you so you can get Yes, this is great.

949
00:54:35,506 --> 00:54:35,926
Yeah.

950
00:54:36,016 --> 00:54:38,146
But two things.

951
00:54:40,126 --> 00:54:45,586
Um, I've been able to go through my
mom's things and I'm the youngest of

952
00:54:45,586 --> 00:54:49,606
seven kids and my parents divorced
after being married for 40 years.

953
00:54:49,756 --> 00:54:54,496
So by the time I was around, they were not
lovey-dovey on each other, like at all.

954
00:54:55,636 --> 00:54:59,956
I found their wedding album and like.

955
00:55:00,601 --> 00:55:03,001
When you're miserable, you're
not gonna pull out those pictures

956
00:55:03,001 --> 00:55:06,181
and look at them with your kids.

957
00:55:06,181 --> 00:55:06,631
Right.

958
00:55:07,171 --> 00:55:09,931
I had never seen them happy.

959
00:55:10,531 --> 00:55:11,191
Wow.

960
00:55:11,311 --> 00:55:13,981
I had never seen them like
loving and kissing on each

961
00:55:13,981 --> 00:55:15,181
other or holding each other.

962
00:55:15,181 --> 00:55:17,311
He was like carrying her in a little.

963
00:55:19,321 --> 00:55:23,731
And so it was just kind of nice
to like know that they really did.

964
00:55:23,911 --> 00:55:25,501
They really did care about each other.

965
00:55:25,681 --> 00:55:29,881
I also found out my last thing, um.

966
00:55:30,541 --> 00:55:32,641
My mom did pageants a little bit.

967
00:55:33,841 --> 00:55:34,651
That's so cool.

968
00:55:35,581 --> 00:55:36,841
I think that was

969
00:55:38,851 --> 00:55:40,171
her helping me heal.

970
00:55:41,101 --> 00:55:41,191
Mm-hmm.

971
00:55:42,121 --> 00:55:43,051
Ooh, okay.

972
00:55:43,531 --> 00:55:44,611
Just a moment.

973
00:55:45,031 --> 00:55:46,411
My cleaners are here.

974
00:55:47,041 --> 00:55:47,641
That's great.

975
00:55:47,641 --> 00:55:49,621
Well, this is a good time.

976
00:55:49,891 --> 00:55:52,141
Tell us where we can need you.

977
00:55:53,041 --> 00:55:53,431
Okay.

978
00:55:53,431 --> 00:55:57,091
So you can find me at, um, on Instagram.

979
00:55:57,601 --> 00:55:59,671
I have a build it Beautiful.

980
00:56:00,316 --> 00:56:04,966
Instagram, but I also have Mrs. Clarissa
Thomas, and there's dots between

981
00:56:04,966 --> 00:56:06,886
each word and both of those handles.

982
00:56:07,126 --> 00:56:09,346
And I'll send this to you and you
can put it in your show notes.

983
00:56:10,066 --> 00:56:15,016
Um, you can find my
podcast@builditbeautiful.com and anything

984
00:56:15,016 --> 00:56:18,946
about me, we didn't get a talk about
like my recipe book, but my girls and

985
00:56:18,946 --> 00:56:22,816
I put together a recipe book this past
year and you can find that on, you

986
00:56:22,816 --> 00:56:25,036
can order it on our site or on Amazon.

987
00:56:25,456 --> 00:56:27,616
Um, they have a Kindle version on Amazon.

988
00:56:27,936 --> 00:56:28,716
That's so cool.

989
00:56:28,716 --> 00:56:31,596
Maybe because I'm gonna be
recording with you soon, maybe we

990
00:56:31,596 --> 00:56:32,766
can talk about that a little bit.

991
00:56:33,676 --> 00:56:36,466
Tiny bit on your podcast
or just come back.

992
00:56:38,266 --> 00:56:39,196
Sounds lovely.

993
00:56:39,466 --> 00:56:41,416
It was a cute little project for me.

994
00:56:41,506 --> 00:56:46,936
And other than that, like I'm, I'm very,
I mean, you can find me on Facebook,

995
00:56:46,936 --> 00:56:48,196
you can find me really anywhere.

996
00:56:48,421 --> 00:56:52,351
I'm happy to, I'm happy to share
and be that mentor that people need.

997
00:56:52,921 --> 00:56:55,561
But also you're, you're going
to find things that are going

998
00:56:55,561 --> 00:56:59,191
to be uplifting, things that are
going to be business oriented.

999
00:56:59,521 --> 00:57:05,791
And I'm, I try and just be super
real, um, with what I post and what

1000
00:57:05,791 --> 00:57:10,921
I share and showing all sides of
humanity versus just a perfect side.

1001
00:57:11,311 --> 00:57:13,261
Well, we don't need to
see just the highlight.

1002
00:57:14,671 --> 00:57:15,391
Let's be real.

1003
00:57:17,866 --> 00:57:18,466
Absolutely.

1004
00:57:19,216 --> 00:57:24,136
Thank you so much for having me
on and chatting with me and, um,

1005
00:57:24,526 --> 00:57:26,716
providing a space where we can connect.

1006
00:57:27,076 --> 00:57:27,676
I love that.

1007
00:57:27,871 --> 00:57:28,381
Thank you.

1008
00:57:29,071 --> 00:57:29,541
Thank you.

1009
00:57:29,891 --> 00:57:30,181
Okay.

1010
00:57:30,291 --> 00:57:30,581
Yeah.