Empowering Through Resilience: A Conversation with Kimberly Wirfs

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hello everyone and welcome to the inner
workings of the not so genius mind.

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I am the not so genius, Amanda McCombs,
and I'm here with my friend Kimberly

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Wirfs, and she is our Miss Bountiful,
um, for the Mrs. Utah American Pageant

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happening at the end of this month.

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Kimberly is a business owner,
widow, and mother of three.

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She believes in empowering others to
embrace resilience and preparedness.

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Life can change in an instant and
being ready makes all the difference.

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Hi.

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Hello.

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So good to chat with you today.

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So good to chat.

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We were just talking a little
bit earlier before we hit record

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'cause we haven't really been
able to get to know each other.

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There's like so many other ladies
and you're on the miss side of

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things and I'm on the misses.

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And while we're doing the same thing,
it's just like a tiny bit different.

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Yes, it definitely is.

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And we haven't, and well, while
there's like six of us misses

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now, um, there's a lot more, or
excuse me, miss, uh, yeah, miss.

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That sounded, that's so hard.

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Miss category.

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Yeah, there we go.

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Um, there are a lot more misses
in the category, you know,

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in the, in that category.

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So sometimes, um, it's a little bit
harder to get to know, you know,

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across the categories, but also.

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Extremely excited to spend a whole
weekend with all of you ladies.

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Um, I'm a little nervous.

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I, if I, if I don't say I'm so myself.

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Um, but, you know, I'm just
excited to have the experience.

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Oh man.

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So last year was my first year
competing and immediately when it was

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done, like I knew it wasn't gonna win.

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Are you kidding me?

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I had no idea what I was doing.

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And, um, right when it was done, I
wanted to do it again, just 'cause like.

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The relationships that you
form and how much you grow.

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It isn't just about being pretty and
walking on a stage, like it's brave.

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It takes bravery to do that, especially
'cause with so many contestants

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now we have a lot of people in the
audience that we're not gonna know.

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Right.

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Ugh.

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Um, so how, 'cause this is my second year.

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You've never done a
pageant before, have you?

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I have never done a pageant.

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And honestly, when I first started I
was like, I re, well, it was at like a

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Christmas party that we were all at and
someone said something about competing

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again, and I was like, wait a minute,
if I don't win, I can do it again.

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And they were like, yeah.

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And I'm like, yes.

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Okay.

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So my whole plan was to go in, have
fun, enjoy, um, the whole process,

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get to know the ladies, and then.

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Compete again next year.

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So that has been my plan,
just to have fun and enjoy it.

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Kind of get the pageant under my belt
and then, um, compete again next year.

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Um, that's good idea.

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That's, yeah, that's, that's my exciting

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part.

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I was just talking to, there's,
um, 'cause that's my second year.

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Like, I don't, I don't know.

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I don't know a lot.

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There's people that have done
pageants for years and years

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and years and they're doing it.

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Um.

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But we were just talking about how
the next time we get all together,

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it's gonna be pageant weekend.

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Like, yes, we're gonna be having
our slumber party and we're gonna be

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doing our dress rehearsal, and we're
actually gonna be like, on the stage?

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Stage, yes.

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Doing our

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dance.

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Like, ah, well, and I wasn't there last
weekend because I, I had a retreat that

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I had already, that I had like already
paid for before I joined the pageant.

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So I wasn't, and.

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I know that February 28th and March
1st are right next to each other, but

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for some reason I didn't think that
they were right next to each other.

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It kind of seems like it should
be like a totally different week.

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Yes, it does.

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It does.

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So I, um, yeah, so I wasn't there last
weekend and luckily one of the Mrs.

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Contestants lives up near where I do,
up in, uh, like, uh, Davis County.

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So then I will be able to practice
with them because I am utterly lost.

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Yeah.

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And the dancing and the
heels is scaring me today.

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Um, yeah, I think I'm switching
my shoes actually for the dance.

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'cause like, it's fast.

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Don't tell me that it's fast.

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Well, it's just, I am
doing the ballroom part.

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Okay.

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And so I have to do like some
extra chacha, like whatever stuff.

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Oh yeah.

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I

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don't have to worry about that stuff.

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It's fast.

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And my shoes are like the
teeny tiny pokey heel.

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So I mean,

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I did get a shorter would
the one shorter hill.

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I did get a shorter heel and it's a little
bit thicker because I tried the short

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hill with like this little spike and I was
like, Nope, this isn't gonna work for me.

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'cause I'm not usually if I wear
heels, it's like a thick, chunky heel.

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So, yeah.

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Well, and

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it doesn't gonna have

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to look like everyone else's like it.

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Oh.

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You need to be comfortable
and you need to be confident.

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'cause if you're not, they'll know.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And that's where I just have
to practice walking in them.

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I'm honestly am not scared.

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I know this is gonna sound
strange, but I am so not scared

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in walking around in the swimsuit.

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Like I have the confidence to walk.

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I mean, I'm like, whatever.

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You know, it's a swimsuit.

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Did you grab your swimsuit already?

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Yes, I did.

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Um, I haven't tried mine on all
the way, but I. I'm a fan of the

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material so far because I had to
one last year I did have to go

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upside upside.

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Me too.

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Me too.

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Um, the one last year was a different
company and it was cheaper material

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and I went to where one time after the
pageant and the seams already were like,

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oh, they weren't gonna hold my girls.

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Yeah.

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Well, I will say that I did have to go
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Yeah.

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But going up in a size, then it, I have
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Just like shorten the straps.

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Yeah.

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Because they're just
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And those cups that they
put in swimsuits are crazy.

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Why I need to have her adjust that too.

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Because it just doesn't not work.

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No, it doesn't work.

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Who?

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No, I

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don't know.

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No, I don't know.

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And they, they like always
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Yes.

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And they don't like either sew them in
and give it shape and make them stay put.

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Yes.

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Or don't do it,

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or don't even have them.

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Yeah.

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And I will say like.

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I am bigger in that area and they
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person that's smaller in that area.

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And I'm like, that's, you know, they
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It's

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not one size fits.

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Oh no

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it's not.

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Oh man, it is not.

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Well this is so cool.

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Um, you have your website Yes.

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Which I want you to like,
I want make one for me.

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Um.

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We'll talk about that.

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Do you want me to tell

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you about the life binder?

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Is that what you want me to talk about?

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Well, I, yeah, because I kind of wanna
tell me about your platform because every

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contestant has a platform and we have
like have to make it part of what we

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eat and live and breathe for a minute.

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So you just publish this life.

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It's Life's Essential Binder.

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Essential binder.

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Yes.

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And I was actually already eat and
breathing this before the pageant.

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Yeah.

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And so I was like, oh, I hope
that this can work together.

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Yes.

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'cause I am a widow.

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My husband, um, passed away 11 and a
half years ago, almost 12 years ago.

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Um, he, after a five deal ba year battle
with stage four young lung cancer.

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Cannot talk today.

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And um, we were young.

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We were both young.

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He was 37.

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Um, and it was like two weeks after
my birthday when he passed away.

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God.

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So he, um, yeah.

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So I just feel like everybody
should be prepared for life

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altering, life changing events.

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And after talking.

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To a lot of friends and even family
members, um, they realize, you know, they

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didn't have all of their things together.

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They don't have a will, they don't
have, you know, different things.

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And I'm not saying you have to
have a will, but it's, but if

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you do, do you know where it is?

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You know, not everybody
even knoWirfs that too.

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Um, and so what I have made is this binder
has all of these things, um, in one place.

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So like your, um, if there's a
place and they have folders, so

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there's a place for your, actually
I have an example of one of them.

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Yeah.

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Let me take this stuff out of it.

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But this is what it looks like.

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So this will be the folder.

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Oh, okay.

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And then there's a paper in there
saying what to put in there.

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But I'm really particular
about how binders lay.

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So it has the Velcro ones here.

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There'll be one in the middle
and then one over here.

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So they all lay nicely.

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So it's not like,

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yeah, so it's not like this.

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I like it.

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I like it because I'm a little
particular, so they have, um, yeah, so

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wine will have like birth certificates
and then social security cards and,

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um, marriage license or mar, you
know, um, and I even put a place for.

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Divorce decrees and I mean, 'cause
you never know, like people have

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may or may not have these things.

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And so there's all different thing,
there's all different spots to have.

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There's are some things
that you just write in.

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Um, for example, like
your health insurance.

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Um, you can put your card in there,
but also you can write the information

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in and write in the doctor's name.

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Um, there's a spot for your visit.

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Vision insurance and also like, you know,
you can put your prescriptions in there

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because when you go to get a prescription.

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Or if you order, even if you order online
like a, like a glasses prescription, the,

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the glasses place doesn't usually keep it.

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They take the information, but they
don't keep the, um, prescription

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and it doesn't expire for two years.

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So you need to make sure you keep that,
um, so that there's a place to keep that.

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And then it has like different
information when it has the medical

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information, but also, um, information
when it comes to like the, um.

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The, oh, what am I trying to say?

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Oh, when you leave and you have
like your parents, watch your kids.

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So, um, and give that authorization to be
able to like take them to the hospital.

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Now, in my case, I would give that
authorization to my older son because

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he's 24 and the other one's 19.

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So if I were to leave for the weekend,
which I should have probably done

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this last weekend, but like, I'd
give them the authorization to take.

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Their little sister and then all
they would need to do, 'cause

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she's 16, all they need to do
is just take the whole binder.

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It would have all of
the information in it.

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It would have the, like what her birth
certificate is and all of the information.

244
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There's also, in my case, uh, a
place to put a death certificate.

245
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So then you always have that.

246
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Um, and then I've also am included
what is called a letter of intent.

247
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And that is for you.

248
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There's instructions and everything in
there too, but that's for you to fill

249
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out, especially if you don't have a will.

250
00:11:20,603 --> 00:11:23,753
But, you know, there are things that
even a will, doesn't take care of,

251
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but how you want to be buried, how
you, um, all, you know, like how

252
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you want your funeral to look like.

253
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Um, I wish I had that information.

254
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From my husband.

255
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Um, and I feel like I did a good
job, but I really do wish I had

256
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that information from my husband.

257
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And I know some people are like, oh, I
don't wanna think about that because then,

258
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um, you know, something bad might happen.

259
00:11:46,598 --> 00:11:50,618
But I'm a firm believer if you are
prepared, you'll never have to use it.

260
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So I try to be prepared
so I don't have to use it.

261
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Well, and like if you do have to
use it, it just makes your life.

262
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Easier.

263
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Yes.

264
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Yeah.

265
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Yes.

266
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Um, my, so both of my
parents have passed away.

267
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Um, okay.

268
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They were, I'm the youngest of seven.

269
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Just to give you like a quick rundown.

270
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Yes.

271
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So my parents were older, right.

272
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Um, my dad just passed in
November and my mom passed.

273
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The previous August, so
like over a year ago.

274
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Um, so

275
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they both were in the last like two years.

276
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Yeah.

277
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But my mom, so like they both, they were
divorced, they married other people.

278
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My dad had everything put
together ready to go, kind of.

279
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But even then it still
like took time to like,

280
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yes.

281
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Put things together because it
wasn't necessarily all in one place.

282
00:12:51,293 --> 00:12:51,563
Right.

283
00:12:51,623 --> 00:12:57,983
Um, my mom's house had burned
down six months before.

284
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Oh my goodness.

285
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So like her house burned down and then
six months later she passed away and

286
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they were like going through and trying
to find things and like get records

287
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and stuff and, you know, pulling out
whatever things you can, but like.

288
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We didn't know anything about how
she wanted to be buried and then we

289
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couldn't find an updated will we, like
we couldn't, we didn't have any of that.

290
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Yeah.

291
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And so the funeral that was put together
was not what she would've wanted.

292
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'cause my stepdad planned it
and didn't really, we didn't

293
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get much involvement in it.

294
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And then my dad's, we were.

295
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More involved.

296
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Like with my stepdad, it was like
her life didn't start until they met.

297
00:13:46,583 --> 00:13:46,763
Mm-hmm.

298
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And it did.

299
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So it was just, yeah, it did.

300
00:13:49,703 --> 00:13:54,773
There was a whole other lifetime
before that, so it's just crazy.

301
00:13:55,043 --> 00:13:59,993
But like I was noticing the drastic
difference between the two, like

302
00:14:00,113 --> 00:14:06,473
being ready and being prepared versus
like not having anything or only

303
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having any everything digitally.

304
00:14:09,293 --> 00:14:09,533
Yeah.

305
00:14:09,533 --> 00:14:14,183
And not having a paper record and not
being able to, like, how are you gonna

306
00:14:14,183 --> 00:14:19,763
give all this information to anybody
that is responsible for your life, right?

307
00:14:20,633 --> 00:14:20,723
Mm-hmm.

308
00:14:20,963 --> 00:14:23,543
And I didn't think like half the
stuff that you listed, I would've

309
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not have thought to put in there.

310
00:14:26,123 --> 00:14:26,213
Well,

311
00:14:27,113 --> 00:14:28,133
and there's even more.

312
00:14:29,648 --> 00:14:35,138
Um, there's even more information I, you
know, talk about like school, um, records.

313
00:14:35,168 --> 00:14:39,428
'cause I have a friend, like diploma,
college diploma, like church records.

314
00:14:39,938 --> 00:14:44,348
Um, just having it all in one place
now, it kind of scares me not having

315
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it in like a safe, but there are people
that have bigger safes than I do and

316
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I'm, I have thought about putting.

317
00:14:51,858 --> 00:14:55,248
I, you know, leaving everything in
my, in my safe, but having copies

318
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in that book, so it's not the
original, but at least it has copies.

319
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And so we have all of the
information and we know where to

320
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get the originals if we need them.

321
00:15:05,658 --> 00:15:07,308
So that's another option as well.

322
00:15:07,308 --> 00:15:12,048
Um, because a safe, if all of those things
were in a safe, um, even just like having

323
00:15:12,048 --> 00:15:15,738
the letter of intent or something like
that in a safe with your mom's fire,

324
00:15:16,008 --> 00:15:18,138
you would've known what was going on.

325
00:15:18,468 --> 00:15:18,828
Yeah.

326
00:15:18,858 --> 00:15:20,178
Well, and it's hard 'cause like.

327
00:15:21,233 --> 00:15:27,353
The house burned down and her assets
are just kind of scattered everywhere.

328
00:15:27,443 --> 00:15:27,893
Right.

329
00:15:28,313 --> 00:15:31,373
And they don't really know, they, they're
like trying to make heads or tails

330
00:15:31,373 --> 00:15:35,543
of all the information and whatever
papers they have, they don't even know

331
00:15:35,543 --> 00:15:38,813
like what attorney it was like anyway.

332
00:15:38,933 --> 00:15:41,753
But like, we can't do anything.

333
00:15:42,473 --> 00:15:42,833
Yeah.

334
00:15:43,223 --> 00:15:44,358
There's only so much you can do.

335
00:15:44,358 --> 00:15:44,478
Yeah.

336
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If you don't have the information.

337
00:15:46,793 --> 00:15:47,423
Exactly.

338
00:15:47,423 --> 00:15:47,963
Exactly.

339
00:15:47,963 --> 00:15:52,583
And I'll be honest, when, when
my husband passed away, probably

340
00:15:52,583 --> 00:15:56,243
like five years after he passed
away, I got rid of his will.

341
00:15:56,483 --> 00:15:57,918
Like, I was like, oh, I
don't need this anymore.

342
00:15:58,943 --> 00:16:01,763
Sure as heck, I needed it a couple
years later and I don't have it.

343
00:16:01,763 --> 00:16:02,303
Uh oh.

344
00:16:02,543 --> 00:16:05,903
Um, and so that was not a good idea.

345
00:16:07,193 --> 00:16:11,273
Um, and it was, it wasn't a big thing that
I needed for, it's still, it, it's fine,

346
00:16:11,273 --> 00:16:13,643
but I'm like, that wasn't smart of me

347
00:16:14,813 --> 00:16:15,383
ski doodle to do that.

348
00:16:15,623 --> 00:16:16,073
So don't

349
00:16:16,073 --> 00:16:17,183
get rid of those things.

350
00:16:17,183 --> 00:16:18,083
I'm just telling you.

351
00:16:18,353 --> 00:16:21,173
Um, I might be able to find it
somewhere, but it's really hard to

352
00:16:21,173 --> 00:16:24,533
go and find, go to look through all
of the documents because it's in his

353
00:16:24,533 --> 00:16:26,123
handwriting and that kind of thing.

354
00:16:26,123 --> 00:16:26,183
Yeah.

355
00:16:27,678 --> 00:16:32,628
At the end of um, November, this last
year, I decided to get a new tattoo

356
00:16:32,628 --> 00:16:37,548
and I have a tattoo of my maiden name
and my married name on my shoulder.

357
00:16:37,548 --> 00:16:41,628
And my maiden name is in my dad's
signature, and my married name is

358
00:16:41,628 --> 00:16:44,958
in my husband's, so I had to find
a document with my married name.

359
00:16:44,958 --> 00:16:47,298
So it just, I, I love it because it's.

360
00:16:49,018 --> 00:16:50,548
It's a piece of both of them.

361
00:16:50,548 --> 00:16:53,878
I mean, my dad's still alive,
but my dad actually can no longer

362
00:16:53,878 --> 00:16:56,698
sign his name because he had
an accident with his left hand.

363
00:16:57,088 --> 00:17:00,478
So he, it was, it was
actually from their will.

364
00:17:01,288 --> 00:17:01,318
Oh.

365
00:17:01,318 --> 00:17:03,448
That, um, that my mom sent me.

366
00:17:03,478 --> 00:17:06,928
'cause I was like, mom,
send me a copy of what, um.

367
00:17:07,838 --> 00:17:09,098
Of like dad's signature.

368
00:17:09,098 --> 00:17:13,358
So I have it, and she kind of knew what
I was doing, but when I showed, I made

369
00:17:13,358 --> 00:17:16,838
sure I got the tattoo before my parents
came to visit so I could show my dad.

370
00:17:16,838 --> 00:17:20,588
And he just was like, oh, that's
so cool, that like, I'm like, look,

371
00:17:20,618 --> 00:17:23,198
your signature is permanently on me.

372
00:17:23,198 --> 00:17:24,458
And he was like, oh my goodness.

373
00:17:24,723 --> 00:17:25,013
Okay.

374
00:17:27,308 --> 00:17:31,898
You know, I thought about doing
that 'cause um, I have some cards.

375
00:17:31,988 --> 00:17:33,668
My dad, he had dementia.

376
00:17:34,238 --> 00:17:34,808
Um, okay.

377
00:17:35,018 --> 00:17:39,038
And he, you know, I. You eventually
stop reading and writing.

378
00:17:39,098 --> 00:17:39,278
Yep.

379
00:17:39,308 --> 00:17:41,798
You kind of forget how and um, yep.

380
00:17:42,068 --> 00:17:46,568
I found some old things
that were, they wrote to me.

381
00:17:46,568 --> 00:17:47,558
Mm-hmm.

382
00:17:48,193 --> 00:17:53,348
And I wanted to get that somewhere on me,
but I haven't, I have a lot of tattoos.

383
00:17:53,348 --> 00:17:57,278
It's kind of hard to figure out where
to, I'm running outta space, but they're

384
00:17:57,278 --> 00:17:59,258
all really meaningful like yours?

385
00:17:59,318 --> 00:17:59,498
Yes.

386
00:17:59,648 --> 00:18:00,098
Beautiful.

387
00:18:00,188 --> 00:18:00,338
I

388
00:18:00,338 --> 00:18:04,958
have, I actually have six and
um, but they're all really small.

389
00:18:06,188 --> 00:18:07,988
Oh, my biggest is probably like this big.

390
00:18:08,468 --> 00:18:11,018
That's still, so yeah, someone,
um, someone was surprised.

391
00:18:11,018 --> 00:18:12,458
They're like, wait,
you have a foot tattoo?

392
00:18:12,458 --> 00:18:15,848
And I was like, I sure do,
Howie, I have one on each foot.

393
00:18:16,298 --> 00:18:16,838
I was gonna do

394
00:18:17,168 --> 00:18:17,588
more, but

395
00:18:17,588 --> 00:18:17,828
it

396
00:18:18,608 --> 00:18:18,848
hurts.

397
00:18:18,848 --> 00:18:19,658
I can't.

398
00:18:19,658 --> 00:18:20,078
Yeah.

399
00:18:20,408 --> 00:18:23,978
That was my second one and it
took me like three months to get

400
00:18:23,978 --> 00:18:25,478
a third because that one hurt.

401
00:18:25,478 --> 00:18:25,808
Like.

402
00:18:26,423 --> 00:18:27,473
No other.

403
00:18:27,623 --> 00:18:27,893
Oh.

404
00:18:27,893 --> 00:18:31,103
And they kept trying to tell me
to hold still, and I'm like, I

405
00:18:31,103 --> 00:18:32,693
am holding as still as I can.

406
00:18:32,693 --> 00:18:34,733
You're vibrating my whole
foot with this thing.

407
00:18:35,243 --> 00:18:35,753
Yes.

408
00:18:35,753 --> 00:18:36,203
And mine

409
00:18:36,263 --> 00:18:37,823
mine's like right next to my toes.

410
00:18:38,783 --> 00:18:45,038
Um, like that's where, yeah, it, um,
it wasn't a smart decision on my heart.

411
00:18:46,268 --> 00:18:48,848
Um, but yeah, never again
will I get the feet.

412
00:18:48,968 --> 00:18:51,938
My first one is on the back of my
neck, and again, it's really small.

413
00:18:52,298 --> 00:18:52,358
Yeah.

414
00:18:52,958 --> 00:18:54,668
But they all have special meetings.

415
00:18:55,718 --> 00:18:56,438
It's like that big.

416
00:18:56,738 --> 00:18:57,098
Yeah.

417
00:18:57,488 --> 00:19:01,088
I mean, mine, it was, it's the
Malin symbol, so it, it looks like

418
00:19:01,088 --> 00:19:03,008
the infinity symbol, but it's not.

419
00:19:03,008 --> 00:19:06,008
And it just means that you have to
face setbacks in order to move forward.

420
00:19:06,548 --> 00:19:06,758
That's true.

421
00:19:06,758 --> 00:19:07,058
And then I

422
00:19:07,058 --> 00:19:09,368
have the, um, semicolon.

423
00:19:09,458 --> 00:19:12,968
And the semicolon, you
know, is I could have it.

424
00:19:12,968 --> 00:19:13,718
A lot of times it's.

425
00:19:13,983 --> 00:19:17,793
It's for suicide awareness, but I
felt like I could have stopped living

426
00:19:17,793 --> 00:19:22,563
my life, um, after my husband died
and just kind of like lived it.

427
00:19:23,453 --> 00:19:24,833
Through the motion, just,
you know, like Bloy.

428
00:19:25,313 --> 00:19:30,593
But I didn't, um, I continued to
live my life, um, as fully as I, you

429
00:19:30,593 --> 00:19:33,143
know, as I could or as I want to.

430
00:19:33,143 --> 00:19:38,633
And then, um, I got, oh, the tri, it's,
it's about this big, but it's a Tri

431
00:19:38,633 --> 00:19:43,703
Scion and it means, um, that your past,
present, and future are all intertwined.

432
00:19:44,153 --> 00:19:45,023
I truly believe that.

433
00:19:45,023 --> 00:19:45,143
Oh, cool.

434
00:19:45,203 --> 00:19:46,043
And then my, they're,

435
00:19:46,178 --> 00:19:46,338
yeah.

436
00:19:47,033 --> 00:19:47,423
Yeah.

437
00:19:47,423 --> 00:19:50,273
So that was my fourth one is a pineapple.

438
00:19:51,083 --> 00:19:54,233
And people make fun of me because you
know, oh, is it upside down pineapple?

439
00:19:54,233 --> 00:19:59,183
And I'm like, no, it, for me it means
that, um, a pineapple stands tall.

440
00:19:59,273 --> 00:19:59,363
Mm-hmm.

441
00:19:59,633 --> 00:20:02,183
They wear a crown and
they're sweet on the inside.

442
00:20:02,243 --> 00:20:04,253
So like a hu I have magnet for me.

443
00:20:04,583 --> 00:20:05,093
Yes.

444
00:20:05,153 --> 00:20:07,493
And then I even, I, I have that
on a magnet a student gave me.

445
00:20:07,493 --> 00:20:08,693
'cause I love doll whip.

446
00:20:09,203 --> 00:20:09,653
Yeah.

447
00:20:09,923 --> 00:20:11,573
And I used to say that all the time.

448
00:20:11,573 --> 00:20:11,783
Be a

449
00:20:11,783 --> 00:20:12,263
pineapple.

450
00:20:12,263 --> 00:20:12,323
Yeah.

451
00:20:13,393 --> 00:20:17,353
So the, and that's how I feel too,
like be, you know, but I can't be

452
00:20:17,353 --> 00:20:20,233
a pineapple for my steak costume
because we don't make pineapple,

453
00:20:20,233 --> 00:20:21,643
we don't grow pineapples in Utah.

454
00:20:23,563 --> 00:20:28,483
But, uh, so that, and as well, I
have words from my favorite band.

455
00:20:28,483 --> 00:20:32,473
It, it stand tall, it gets a little
better, so it kind of goes together.

456
00:20:32,893 --> 00:20:37,663
And then I also have, um, the
number 5 0 7 right behind my ear.

457
00:20:38,903 --> 00:20:43,733
And that is my birthday and is also
like my angel number 'cause I see

458
00:20:43,793 --> 00:20:47,513
5 0 7 or 57 all over the place.

459
00:20:47,513 --> 00:20:53,003
I really, for a while was trying to get
up and meditate at 5 0 7 every morning.

460
00:20:53,903 --> 00:20:56,363
Then I got really tired and I
decided not to do that anymore.

461
00:20:57,713 --> 00:20:59,663
I'm trying to get back to there,
and then I have the one with

462
00:20:59,663 --> 00:21:01,223
my, um, with the signatures.

463
00:21:01,463 --> 00:21:05,003
So, yeah, I, I love tattoos
that mean something.

464
00:21:05,513 --> 00:21:09,623
'cause if I'm gonna wear it forever,
I don't want like, no offense

465
00:21:09,623 --> 00:21:12,113
to anyone, but I don't want like
a Winnie the Poo on my ankle.

466
00:21:14,333 --> 00:21:18,503
You, I mean, no offense to anyone, but
I like, I got my first one I think,

467
00:21:18,743 --> 00:21:26,033
I mean, I was over 40, so I think I
was like maybe 42 for my first one.

468
00:21:26,123 --> 00:21:31,433
So I've gotten all of them after that
in the last like five, six years.

469
00:21:31,793 --> 00:21:35,058
I like to think about it and
like really be like, yeah, if I

470
00:21:35,058 --> 00:21:37,103
have to explain this to somebody,

471
00:21:37,793 --> 00:21:38,183
yes.

472
00:21:38,273 --> 00:21:38,453
Like

473
00:21:38,453 --> 00:21:40,163
what is the significance?

474
00:21:40,163 --> 00:21:40,733
Right.

475
00:21:40,913 --> 00:21:43,583
Well that's the thing is I actually
like explaining 'em when they're

476
00:21:43,583 --> 00:21:45,143
like, oh, what does 5 0 7 mean?

477
00:21:45,143 --> 00:21:46,493
And I'm like, it's my birthday.

478
00:21:46,793 --> 00:21:50,333
I remember I sent a picture to
my sister with my new tattoo

479
00:21:50,423 --> 00:21:51,893
and she was like, what's 5 0 7?

480
00:21:51,893 --> 00:21:52,313
And I'm like.

481
00:21:53,373 --> 00:21:53,953
My birthday.

482
00:21:53,953 --> 00:21:53,955
My birthday.

483
00:21:54,458 --> 00:21:56,078
She's like, oh, I should
have thought about that.

484
00:21:57,248 --> 00:21:57,548
This

485
00:21:57,548 --> 00:21:59,108
is, I don't know if you can see.

486
00:21:59,828 --> 00:22:00,878
Yes, I can see it.

487
00:22:01,058 --> 00:22:02,198
His name is Douglas.

488
00:22:02,198 --> 00:22:03,728
Oh, okay.

489
00:22:03,728 --> 00:22:05,318
It's a Douglas Bry.

490
00:22:05,918 --> 00:22:06,278
Yeah.

491
00:22:06,548 --> 00:22:10,508
And some little mushrooms
because that is so cool things.

492
00:22:10,748 --> 00:22:12,788
They help, they help
things grow from the rut.

493
00:22:12,788 --> 00:22:13,543
But I'm from Oregon.

494
00:22:13,723 --> 00:22:13,943
Yes.

495
00:22:13,958 --> 00:22:15,098
And that's our state tree.

496
00:22:15,623 --> 00:22:15,833
Did

497
00:22:15,833 --> 00:22:16,223
you not?

498
00:22:16,223 --> 00:22:17,663
I, I am from Oregon.

499
00:22:17,723 --> 00:22:18,683
No way.

500
00:22:19,043 --> 00:22:19,733
Yes.

501
00:22:19,733 --> 00:22:23,663
And actually my son has a tattoo
of three pine trees on his

502
00:22:23,663 --> 00:22:26,003
shoulder because he loves Oregon.

503
00:22:26,003 --> 00:22:26,273
Yes.

504
00:22:26,273 --> 00:22:27,263
What part of Oregon?

505
00:22:27,713 --> 00:22:32,213
Um, up by Portland in like
a Willamette Valley area.

506
00:22:32,963 --> 00:22:35,243
Okay, well, we'll have
to talk about exactly

507
00:22:35,243 --> 00:22:38,633
where, because I am from that same area.

508
00:22:38,633 --> 00:22:41,843
We're about Zoo, 45 zoos, zoo cans,

509
00:22:41,843 --> 00:22:42,593
zoo pants.

510
00:22:42,593 --> 00:22:43,793
Do you know what zoo pants was?

511
00:22:44,783 --> 00:22:47,333
No, I moved to Utah in 98.

512
00:22:47,333 --> 00:22:47,423
Okay.

513
00:22:47,783 --> 00:22:50,153
And then they, they
disappeared after that.

514
00:22:50,333 --> 00:22:51,503
It was a grocery store.

515
00:22:52,163 --> 00:22:54,083
Oh, yes, yes.

516
00:22:54,563 --> 00:22:59,693
Um, but we are from a little town,
um, like 45 minutes west of Portland.

517
00:22:59,963 --> 00:23:01,373
Oh, okay, okay.

518
00:23:01,373 --> 00:23:02,213
In Willamette Valley.

519
00:23:02,603 --> 00:23:03,053
Okay.

520
00:23:03,263 --> 00:23:03,653
Weird.

521
00:23:04,193 --> 00:23:06,173
Do you know where Yamhill County?

522
00:23:06,593 --> 00:23:07,103
Mm-hmm.

523
00:23:08,078 --> 00:23:08,948
In that area.

524
00:23:09,278 --> 00:23:09,818
That's weird.

525
00:23:09,848 --> 00:23:10,388
Yes.

526
00:23:10,508 --> 00:23:10,808
Yeah.

527
00:23:10,868 --> 00:23:10,988
Okay.

528
00:23:10,988 --> 00:23:11,108
Small.

529
00:23:11,108 --> 00:23:15,158
So my sentence for tattoo
was of three pine trees.

530
00:23:15,158 --> 00:23:18,938
And I love to tease him because his
second one was a dancing piece of gum

531
00:23:21,278 --> 00:23:23,228
and he's like, mom, I really
wanna get this one covered up.

532
00:23:23,228 --> 00:23:27,158
And I said, um, buddy, I don't think
you should because this is your,

533
00:23:27,188 --> 00:23:29,558
um, let it represent that moment.

534
00:23:29,558 --> 00:23:33,878
This is, this is represents
you needing to like, listen.

535
00:23:34,343 --> 00:23:35,873
To yourself and not other people.

536
00:23:35,873 --> 00:23:37,763
He's like, yeah, it was a
little bit of a peer pressure.

537
00:23:38,303 --> 00:23:38,393
Mm-hmm.

538
00:23:38,393 --> 00:23:40,733
It was $35 is what he keeps telling me.

539
00:23:40,733 --> 00:23:44,088
And I'm like, well, I
guess that's the reason.

540
00:23:45,173 --> 00:23:45,593
Yeah.

541
00:23:45,953 --> 00:23:46,583
Oh my goodness.

542
00:23:46,583 --> 00:23:49,373
I lost my phone because it
was 30, because it was $35.

543
00:23:50,273 --> 00:23:50,488
That's funny.

544
00:23:51,028 --> 00:23:55,793
Um, my whole leg, so I have a tattoo
that goes from my knee and it goes

545
00:23:55,793 --> 00:24:00,383
all the way up to like the middle
of my hip and it's my wet flowers.

546
00:24:00,383 --> 00:24:00,473
Mm-hmm.

547
00:24:01,358 --> 00:24:01,898
Okay.

548
00:24:01,898 --> 00:24:07,628
And then I have a flower for each
one of my kids and I have two buds

549
00:24:07,628 --> 00:24:09,758
'cause I had two miscarriages.

550
00:24:11,348 --> 00:24:11,408
Oh, okay.

551
00:24:11,408 --> 00:24:11,768
That's really

552
00:24:11,768 --> 00:24:12,218
cool.

553
00:24:12,248 --> 00:24:14,918
I have a butterfly for
each one of my mom's.

554
00:24:16,028 --> 00:24:21,068
Oh, my best friend's mom had
ovarian cancer and passed

555
00:24:21,068 --> 00:24:22,688
away like really, really fast.

556
00:24:22,688 --> 00:24:22,778
Mm-hmm.

557
00:24:23,378 --> 00:24:28,298
So she was the first, she was who I was
actually going to go get a tattoo for.

558
00:24:28,868 --> 00:24:32,138
Um, and then I was talking to the
artist and it just kept getting bigger

559
00:24:32,138 --> 00:24:33,218
and bigger and bigger and bigger.

560
00:24:33,368 --> 00:24:37,058
But the first part was actually like

561
00:24:39,458 --> 00:24:42,608
somebody was supposed to fix
it and they didn't fix it.

562
00:24:42,608 --> 00:24:46,448
And so then I had two artists
tattooing me at the same time

563
00:24:46,448 --> 00:24:47,378
to cover it up and fix it.

564
00:24:47,378 --> 00:24:47,408
Oh,

565
00:24:47,408 --> 00:24:47,978
wow.

566
00:24:48,518 --> 00:24:48,878
Yeah.

567
00:24:48,878 --> 00:24:49,538
Oh wow.

568
00:24:50,603 --> 00:24:54,023
I'll show you pictures of that later,
but it's been really, really cool.

569
00:24:54,023 --> 00:24:57,383
I love my tattoo shop, but we
have a lot of random connections

570
00:24:57,383 --> 00:25:01,013
like you're Miss Boun and that's
where I graduated high school and

571
00:25:01,013 --> 00:25:03,653
I used to live up by Mueller Park.

572
00:25:05,213 --> 00:25:05,843
Wow.

573
00:25:06,443 --> 00:25:06,953
Yeah.

574
00:25:07,763 --> 00:25:09,023
Crazy small world.

575
00:25:09,443 --> 00:25:10,798
Yes, definitely is.

576
00:25:12,038 --> 00:25:12,328
What

577
00:25:12,333 --> 00:25:13,913
else do I wanna know about you?

578
00:25:14,183 --> 00:25:15,023
I don't know.

579
00:25:15,323 --> 00:25:16,463
I don't know either.

580
00:25:16,553 --> 00:25:17,783
Your husband passed away decade ago.

581
00:25:19,013 --> 00:25:20,303
That makes me so sad.

582
00:25:20,843 --> 00:25:21,323
Yeah.

583
00:25:21,833 --> 00:25:23,003
But at the same time, you're thriving.

584
00:25:23,423 --> 00:25:24,173
Yes.

585
00:25:24,173 --> 00:25:28,703
Um, so he was in the military, so we
actually lived in, um, well, another

586
00:25:28,703 --> 00:25:36,323
cool fact about me though is I had
every, I had a child in each of the, um.

587
00:25:37,373 --> 00:25:39,713
Uh, states on the West Coast.

588
00:25:40,193 --> 00:25:41,933
So my first was born in Oregon.

589
00:25:41,933 --> 00:25:44,663
One was born in California and
one was born in Washington.

590
00:25:44,903 --> 00:25:45,383
Oh my gosh.

591
00:25:45,383 --> 00:25:47,483
It was kind of a cool,
yeah, that's kind of cool.

592
00:25:47,483 --> 00:25:50,753
Yeah, so my husband, he lived,
um, he was military too.

593
00:25:50,783 --> 00:25:54,863
He did Air Force for five years and
then he did a few years, whatever his

594
00:25:54,863 --> 00:25:57,983
remaining years were reserves, yeah.

595
00:25:58,043 --> 00:25:58,553
Oh, in the guard.

596
00:25:58,763 --> 00:25:58,943
Okay.

597
00:25:59,003 --> 00:25:59,273
Yeah.

598
00:25:59,303 --> 00:26:00,533
But he was up in the.

599
00:26:01,373 --> 00:26:03,743
He was up in Washington,
he was born in Germany.

600
00:26:03,923 --> 00:26:05,903
His dad was deployed over there.

601
00:26:05,903 --> 00:26:07,943
So like that.

602
00:26:08,003 --> 00:26:08,213
Yeah.

603
00:26:08,213 --> 00:26:09,263
Military spouse.

604
00:26:09,263 --> 00:26:10,493
Life is hard.

605
00:26:10,673 --> 00:26:10,883
Yes.

606
00:26:11,063 --> 00:26:14,183
And my husband was actually in
the Air Force as well, and we

607
00:26:14,183 --> 00:26:17,123
lived in, when we found out he had
cancer, we actually lived in Japan.

608
00:26:17,123 --> 00:26:23,003
So my, my, my middle child, um,
moved to Japan when he was two

609
00:26:23,003 --> 00:26:27,113
months old and we moved back when
he was two years and two months old.

610
00:26:27,533 --> 00:26:29,993
So I, I was, I would
always tease that he had.

611
00:26:31,148 --> 00:26:32,168
Until he was four.

612
00:26:32,168 --> 00:26:35,858
He had lived in Japan longer than
he lived in the United States.

613
00:26:36,458 --> 00:26:37,808
That is so crazy.

614
00:26:37,838 --> 00:26:45,908
Well, and then my dad, so my dad's dad
was in the Air Force, um, and he was

615
00:26:45,908 --> 00:26:49,178
actually in the Panama Canal in 1942.

616
00:26:49,943 --> 00:26:50,483
Oh wow.

617
00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:51,083
Like when

618
00:26:51,083 --> 00:26:53,538
my dad was being born, born.

619
00:26:53,543 --> 00:26:58,733
So we have have like all these, all
these, this correspondence of like, my

620
00:26:58,733 --> 00:27:04,658
grandma is trying to keep track because,
you know, it's her first baby and Oh wow.

621
00:27:04,663 --> 00:27:09,263
She doesn't know where her husband
is or hasn't heard from him and

622
00:27:09,263 --> 00:27:10,973
if he's okay or what's going on.

623
00:27:10,973 --> 00:27:14,273
Like she just hears whatever on the
neWirfs and like whatever limited

624
00:27:14,273 --> 00:27:18,593
correspondence she can get would
come her way, but we, it just.

625
00:27:19,328 --> 00:27:24,278
There are not very many people that
have lived lives like that anymore.

626
00:27:25,148 --> 00:27:31,688
Like, yeah, it, it makes it like, it
makes you, it, it changes you and it can

627
00:27:31,688 --> 00:27:36,008
change you in a, I mean, it can change
you in a lot of different ways, but Right.

628
00:27:36,008 --> 00:27:37,058
The resilience.

629
00:27:38,453 --> 00:27:38,783
Yes.

630
00:27:38,783 --> 00:27:39,023
And

631
00:27:39,023 --> 00:27:42,503
I, I will say I loved
being a military spouse.

632
00:27:42,593 --> 00:27:50,453
Um, I lived in, like, so from when I
got married in 1989 until I moved to

633
00:27:50,453 --> 00:27:57,023
Utah in 2016, um, I had not lived in
one place for more than five years.

634
00:27:57,953 --> 00:27:59,213
Gosh, yeah.

635
00:27:59,393 --> 00:28:03,203
So, yes, so we, the first
year and a half that we were

636
00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:05,093
married, um, we moved five times.

637
00:28:06,893 --> 00:28:10,463
We were in the same like area,
but all different little, um, h

638
00:28:10,523 --> 00:28:12,353
you know, all different houses.

639
00:28:12,743 --> 00:28:16,433
Um, and then we Did you ever
unpack or did you just give up?

640
00:28:16,433 --> 00:28:19,223
Yeah, well, because, no, no, no, we
unpacked 'cause we didn't know we were

641
00:28:19,223 --> 00:28:20,813
gonna be moving so much, you know?

642
00:28:20,873 --> 00:28:22,973
Uh, um, so that was a little different.

643
00:28:23,363 --> 00:28:27,503
Um, and then we moved
into my parents' house.

644
00:28:27,503 --> 00:28:31,013
My parents didn't live there, but
they were, um, they were living in

645
00:28:31,013 --> 00:28:32,933
another state, so we kind of were like.

646
00:28:33,148 --> 00:28:34,588
The caretakers of the house.

647
00:28:34,588 --> 00:28:39,058
And so we moved into my parents'
house, um, and took care of it.

648
00:28:39,118 --> 00:28:44,758
And then, um, yeah, then we went
into the military three years later,

649
00:28:45,388 --> 00:28:48,598
and then we moved every two and
a half to three years after that.

650
00:28:48,598 --> 00:28:55,528
And then, yeah, we, we were in
our house for three, no, two years

651
00:28:55,528 --> 00:28:56,968
before my husband passed away.

652
00:28:56,968 --> 00:28:59,038
And then the kids and I stayed
in there for another two years.

653
00:28:59,398 --> 00:28:59,788
Yeah.

654
00:28:59,998 --> 00:29:02,008
And then we moved here and
we've been here for eight years.

655
00:29:02,948 --> 00:29:03,848
So

656
00:29:03,908 --> 00:29:06,848
what is your favorite
place that you've lived?

657
00:29:06,848 --> 00:29:12,248
'cause you like Japan and West Coast and
like you kind of have lived all over.

658
00:29:13,508 --> 00:29:14,738
If you could back any,

659
00:29:14,738 --> 00:29:17,048
I loved, I loved Japan.

660
00:29:17,108 --> 00:29:18,218
I would live there again.

661
00:29:18,488 --> 00:29:22,838
Um, the only thing is, is that we lived
on a military base, so I would have to

662
00:29:22,838 --> 00:29:27,548
live someplace that, like, I could also be
on the, you know, like around Americans.

663
00:29:27,608 --> 00:29:31,208
Not because I don't like the Japanese,
but because I don't speak Japanese.

664
00:29:32,798 --> 00:29:33,608
Japanese, some of your

665
00:29:33,608 --> 00:29:34,298
people.

666
00:29:34,538 --> 00:29:34,898
Yeah.

667
00:29:34,898 --> 00:29:40,178
Well, Japanese is a really hard language
to learn, so, um, I know a little bit, but

668
00:29:40,178 --> 00:29:46,238
I, there's no way that, like I am, I don't
think I could learn it, um, completely.

669
00:29:47,063 --> 00:29:49,973
So I would love to let go,
at least visit Japan again.

670
00:29:50,003 --> 00:29:50,063
Yeah.

671
00:29:50,123 --> 00:29:53,153
Um, but I don't know if I
really wanna live anywhere.

672
00:29:53,153 --> 00:29:57,053
I really do enjoy Utah because
I like how it has seasons.

673
00:29:57,443 --> 00:30:01,973
Um, Oregon is very hard for me because,
um, it's cloudy gets very gloomy.

674
00:30:02,453 --> 00:30:02,513
Yeah.

675
00:30:02,513 --> 00:30:07,043
So it is very, very hard for me, um,
which is why I like to come to Utah.

676
00:30:07,883 --> 00:30:11,283
Um, and I always say like, my kids
are like, yeah, but it snoWirfs.

677
00:30:11,303 --> 00:30:14,963
And I'm like, but it can
snow and then be sunny.

678
00:30:15,263 --> 00:30:16,733
So, you know, that's a little different.

679
00:30:17,063 --> 00:30:17,243
Yeah.

680
00:30:17,273 --> 00:30:22,403
Um, so I love that my, when my
youngest who, she's a sophomore this

681
00:30:22,403 --> 00:30:26,303
year when she graduates high school,
my goal for that next year still

682
00:30:26,303 --> 00:30:30,653
work because I can work remotely,
but it's to go to Europe for like.

683
00:30:30,713 --> 00:30:36,353
Like three to four months and just travel
and you know, stay in little, like Airbnbs

684
00:30:36,353 --> 00:30:37,883
over there and like, that'd be so cool.

685
00:30:37,883 --> 00:30:37,943
Um.

686
00:30:38,858 --> 00:30:42,608
Work for like four or five hours
and then go and experience the area.

687
00:30:42,878 --> 00:30:44,198
So that's kind of my goal.

688
00:30:44,198 --> 00:30:47,378
It may have to be the year after she
graduates 'cause I may need, you know,

689
00:30:47,378 --> 00:30:48,968
to save up a little bit more for it.

690
00:30:49,538 --> 00:30:55,508
But that's my goal is just to kind
of really, really enjoy my life.

691
00:30:56,498 --> 00:30:57,038
Yeah.

692
00:30:57,038 --> 00:30:58,628
Well we need to live it,

693
00:30:58,688 --> 00:30:59,168
right?

694
00:30:59,438 --> 00:30:59,888
Yes.

695
00:30:59,888 --> 00:31:00,578
Exactly.

696
00:31:00,638 --> 00:31:01,358
Exactly.

697
00:31:01,838 --> 00:31:03,458
Um, my dad always.

698
00:31:03,788 --> 00:31:06,518
What he would go on all these
different business trips, but

699
00:31:06,518 --> 00:31:08,468
he, like, he was adventurous.

700
00:31:08,468 --> 00:31:11,978
Like he hiked Machu Picchu and
he would go whitewater wrapped.

701
00:31:12,873 --> 00:31:13,163
Yeah.

702
00:31:13,568 --> 00:31:14,843
He like would go, I'm not a hiker.

703
00:31:15,063 --> 00:31:15,398
Oh yeah.

704
00:31:15,398 --> 00:31:15,938
No, no, no.

705
00:31:16,028 --> 00:31:19,088
But he would, anything he came back
from, even if it was a business meeting,

706
00:31:19,088 --> 00:31:22,688
he would just be like, I escaped
the jaWirfs of death one more time.

707
00:31:22,688 --> 00:31:23,078
Right.

708
00:31:23,078 --> 00:31:26,018
So yeah, he was, he just
was all about living.

709
00:31:26,813 --> 00:31:30,383
Like, we're here to live life, not
just sit around and let it pass you by.

710
00:31:30,413 --> 00:31:37,313
Like, I want, I kind of, after my parents
passed, I kind of had this mental shift

711
00:31:37,883 --> 00:31:43,493
of becoming more of an active participant
in my life instead of like being a

712
00:31:43,493 --> 00:31:45,983
supporter and being on the sidelines.

713
00:31:45,983 --> 00:31:45,984
Yes.

714
00:31:46,098 --> 00:31:47,388
Like we're important too.

715
00:31:48,653 --> 00:31:49,193
Oh, yes.

716
00:31:49,193 --> 00:31:53,093
I truly believe that, especially
because, um, for the last, you

717
00:31:53,093 --> 00:31:56,183
know, five, or excuse me, 11 years.

718
00:31:56,393 --> 00:31:56,483
Mm-hmm.

719
00:31:56,723 --> 00:31:59,933
Um, I have been my kid's only parent.

720
00:31:59,963 --> 00:32:05,183
Um, I always talk about, you know,
being an only parent and, um, I needed

721
00:32:05,183 --> 00:32:11,873
to be in the life, not just I need,
I need it to be living the life.

722
00:32:12,548 --> 00:32:12,878
Yeah,

723
00:32:13,388 --> 00:32:18,998
so that is, um, that's really
what I have like worked very

724
00:32:18,998 --> 00:32:21,188
hard to do, is to live my life.

725
00:32:21,398 --> 00:32:21,788
It takes

726
00:32:21,788 --> 00:32:26,858
a lot of healing to be
able to get to a place Yes.

727
00:32:26,858 --> 00:32:29,168
Where you feel safe enough to do that.

728
00:32:29,738 --> 00:32:30,278
Yes.

729
00:32:30,308 --> 00:32:37,028
And it's been a lot of years, um,
and therapy to be able to get there.

730
00:32:38,048 --> 00:32:38,498
Yes.

731
00:32:38,498 --> 00:32:40,328
I love therapy so much.

732
00:32:41,078 --> 00:32:41,828
Oh my goodness.

733
00:32:41,858 --> 00:32:44,228
But it's been a lot to get there.

734
00:32:44,828 --> 00:32:45,338
Yeah.

735
00:32:45,398 --> 00:32:51,938
Well, and it like I can tell, um, I mean,
we talk about resiliency and we just

736
00:32:51,938 --> 00:32:53,528
talk about like the bounce back part.

737
00:32:53,528 --> 00:32:53,618
Mm-hmm.

738
00:32:54,008 --> 00:32:56,348
We forget to talk about
the part where you're down.

739
00:32:56,823 --> 00:32:57,113
Yeah.

740
00:32:57,113 --> 00:32:57,873
Because sometimes.

741
00:32:58,733 --> 00:33:03,533
You, you have to talk about where you get
knocked down so you can bounce back up.

742
00:33:04,283 --> 00:33:04,943
Exactly.

743
00:33:05,663 --> 00:33:06,053
Exactly.

744
00:33:06,053 --> 00:33:09,083
And it's okay to lay down and take a
little rest down there if you need to.

745
00:33:09,983 --> 00:33:14,033
Yes, man, you were so cool.

746
00:33:14,093 --> 00:33:14,843
I'm so excited.

747
00:33:15,263 --> 00:33:16,793
Oh, that we gotta chat like.

748
00:33:17,438 --> 00:33:18,608
Holy smokes.

749
00:33:18,788 --> 00:33:22,958
It's, it's cool to get to know
some more of the Miss contestants.

750
00:33:22,958 --> 00:33:26,498
This, I think is the main way that I'm
gonna be able to get to chat with you guys

751
00:33:27,308 --> 00:33:27,818
probably.

752
00:33:29,858 --> 00:33:35,948
Yeah, and I'm really, I'm very, um,
glad that I'll, you know, I. That a

753
00:33:35,948 --> 00:33:39,848
lot of the misses, contestants have
kind of helped me out in, in ways

754
00:33:39,848 --> 00:33:41,648
because we went to that adult prom.

755
00:33:41,648 --> 00:33:41,708
Yeah.

756
00:33:42,068 --> 00:33:44,438
And I was the only miss that was there.

757
00:33:44,438 --> 00:33:47,228
And I was like, oh, am I
gonna be all by myself?

758
00:33:47,228 --> 00:33:51,698
But there were so many of you that just
like included me and made me feel special.

759
00:33:51,698 --> 00:33:53,618
And that was what was most important.

760
00:33:53,888 --> 00:33:57,068
I mean, obviously in the slow
songs, I went and sat down.

761
00:33:57,278 --> 00:34:00,518
But other than that, it was great.

762
00:34:01,358 --> 00:34:02,198
It's really funny.

763
00:34:02,498 --> 00:34:04,508
Um, I was dancing with.

764
00:34:05,033 --> 00:34:07,643
I grabbed Michelle and I was
dancing with her for one of them.

765
00:34:07,643 --> 00:34:10,043
'cause it was like a sudden
switch and we were all the way

766
00:34:10,043 --> 00:34:11,183
on the other side of the room.

767
00:34:11,183 --> 00:34:14,243
So I was just like, come
here, come on Michael.

768
00:34:14,243 --> 00:34:14,348
We just dance.

769
00:34:14,378 --> 00:34:15,828
Yeah, exactly.

770
00:34:16,018 --> 00:34:16,508
Exactly.

771
00:34:16,808 --> 00:34:22,913
But I think, and in talking to some
of the other people that, um, 'cause

772
00:34:22,913 --> 00:34:26,003
we're all feeling nervous, we're all
like, oh my gosh, it's really happening.

773
00:34:26,003 --> 00:34:26,633
It's coming.

774
00:34:26,663 --> 00:34:29,603
Like in a couple weeks we're gonna
have to be like, ready to go.

775
00:34:30,053 --> 00:34:32,363
Um, and that pan like.

776
00:34:33,083 --> 00:34:33,773
There's panic.

777
00:34:33,773 --> 00:34:34,343
That's okay.

778
00:34:34,343 --> 00:34:34,823
That's fine.

779
00:34:34,823 --> 00:34:35,783
We're all feeling that.

780
00:34:35,783 --> 00:34:39,743
But at the same time, like I meant
it when I said the sisterhood

781
00:34:39,983 --> 00:34:42,143
doesn't end when the pageant is over.

782
00:34:42,503 --> 00:34:42,563
Yeah.

783
00:34:42,563 --> 00:34:45,323
Because we do have, there
is a pageant hangover.

784
00:34:45,893 --> 00:34:46,463
Um.

785
00:34:46,883 --> 00:34:50,783
Because you do so much work and then
you get there and then it's over.

786
00:34:50,783 --> 00:34:50,873
Mm-hmm.

787
00:34:51,143 --> 00:34:54,623
And there's only so many people that
are gonna get the crown, um, right.

788
00:34:54,983 --> 00:34:59,453
But afterwards, you keep your title
and you can keep showing up and

789
00:34:59,453 --> 00:35:03,773
going to all this other stuff and you
get first pick on if you want that

790
00:35:03,773 --> 00:35:08,183
title again, when I know that's what
I'm to roll around excited about.

791
00:35:08,243 --> 00:35:08,603
Yeah.

792
00:35:08,633 --> 00:35:08,783
Yeah.

793
00:35:08,783 --> 00:35:10,253
That's definitely what I'm excited about.

794
00:35:10,253 --> 00:35:12,503
And honestly, you wanna
know something silly.

795
00:35:13,103 --> 00:35:13,193
What?

796
00:35:13,313 --> 00:35:14,063
Um.

797
00:35:14,543 --> 00:35:19,733
After, even if I win, I mean, not saying
I'm going, I'm going to, but like even if

798
00:35:19,733 --> 00:35:24,658
I do win, no matter what, um, after it,
I'm going to the Kelsey Ballerina concert.

799
00:35:25,568 --> 00:35:25,628
Yeah.

800
00:35:26,648 --> 00:35:29,918
Like, I'm gonna go in full makeup,
I'll change my clothes, but I'm

801
00:35:29,918 --> 00:35:31,718
gonna go in full pageant makeup.

802
00:35:31,718 --> 00:35:32,393
Oh my gosh.

803
00:35:32,558 --> 00:35:35,753
And no, I'm talking, it's that
night, so I It's that night.

804
00:35:36,698 --> 00:35:37,178
Yes.

805
00:35:37,178 --> 00:35:38,528
It's that night my friend.

806
00:35:38,528 --> 00:35:43,358
As soon as the pageant's over, my
friend is gonna go and, um, and

807
00:35:43,358 --> 00:35:45,913
then I'll get all of my stuff and
I'll go separate the getaway car.

808
00:35:46,598 --> 00:35:46,868
Yeah.

809
00:35:47,118 --> 00:35:52,098
I'm gonna go separately from them, but
like I, um, I know that usually that,

810
00:35:52,128 --> 00:35:57,678
'cause I've been to enough concerts and at
the Delta Center usually the, um, opening

811
00:35:57,678 --> 00:36:00,588
act doesn't go on until like 9, 9 15.

812
00:36:00,648 --> 00:36:03,738
So I have time to run down there.

813
00:36:03,738 --> 00:36:05,208
It's totally fine.

814
00:36:05,628 --> 00:36:05,808
Oh my gosh.

815
00:36:05,838 --> 00:36:09,378
Kelsey Ballerini has been
getting me through, um, some hard

816
00:36:09,378 --> 00:36:11,388
times, so I wanna go see her.

817
00:36:12,078 --> 00:36:12,918
You have to

818
00:36:12,918 --> 00:36:15,798
go and then like, you know that
makeup isn't gonna go anywhere.

819
00:36:16,368 --> 00:36:16,788
No.

820
00:36:17,663 --> 00:36:21,443
It's, it's gonna be like there and
everyone's gonna be like, what the heck?

821
00:36:21,443 --> 00:36:22,073
Who is this lady?

822
00:36:22,073 --> 00:36:22,588
I woke up like that.

823
00:36:22,588 --> 00:36:22,708
Yeah.

824
00:36:22,708 --> 00:36:23,108
I'm gonna be back.

825
00:36:23,213 --> 00:36:24,293
I, yes.

826
00:36:24,293 --> 00:36:25,523
I might even wear my sash.

827
00:36:25,523 --> 00:36:26,723
We'll see, I

828
00:36:26,723 --> 00:36:27,203
think you should

829
00:36:27,203 --> 00:36:27,413
just

830
00:36:27,413 --> 00:36:28,793
take, go in your gown.

831
00:36:29,213 --> 00:36:31,013
Don't even, um, just kidding.

832
00:36:31,013 --> 00:36:32,963
I probably, I probably could.

833
00:36:32,963 --> 00:36:33,773
I probably could.

834
00:36:33,773 --> 00:36:37,493
I honestly, after the pageant,
I wanna take my gown to, I

835
00:36:37,493 --> 00:36:39,068
wanna go to the salt flax.

836
00:36:39,253 --> 00:36:44,203
Flats and get pictures there
because I just love my gown.

837
00:36:44,203 --> 00:36:45,043
I almost cried.

838
00:36:45,313 --> 00:36:47,653
I almost cried when I found it.

839
00:36:47,713 --> 00:36:50,563
And I have like a fun
story about, about my gown.

840
00:36:50,623 --> 00:36:56,443
Um, I actually got it at, um, I don't know
if you've ever been to Thrive Boutique.

841
00:36:56,713 --> 00:36:57,403
It's like this.

842
00:36:57,658 --> 00:37:00,688
Little, um, thrift store,

843
00:37:01,228 --> 00:37:01,498
um,

844
00:37:01,528 --> 00:37:09,118
downtown Salt Lake and it's on 900
South and it has like upscale, um,

845
00:37:09,448 --> 00:37:14,668
high end, um, pieces for um, yeah,
different gowns and everything.

846
00:37:14,818 --> 00:37:19,408
And it was not a gown that I
thought that I would love, and she

847
00:37:19,408 --> 00:37:20,938
just pulled it just in case and.

848
00:37:21,263 --> 00:37:23,393
I tried it on and I was like, this is it.

849
00:37:23,753 --> 00:37:24,353
This is it.

850
00:37:24,353 --> 00:37:26,963
And it was like $70.

851
00:37:27,683 --> 00:37:28,013
What?

852
00:37:28,763 --> 00:37:30,383
But it is like a MacDougal.

853
00:37:30,503 --> 00:37:31,913
I know that's a high-end brand.

854
00:37:31,918 --> 00:37:32,058
Yeah.

855
00:37:32,058 --> 00:37:36,863
So I just knew that it was like
a nice brand, but I love it.

856
00:37:36,863 --> 00:37:42,053
And that hot pink one that I,
um, that I wore to the prom,

857
00:37:42,053 --> 00:37:43,073
it was from the same place.

858
00:37:43,943 --> 00:37:46,193
Oh yeah, I remember you telling me now.

859
00:37:46,283 --> 00:37:46,493
Okay.

860
00:37:46,493 --> 00:37:46,823
I am lucky.

861
00:37:46,823 --> 00:37:47,153
Yeah.

862
00:37:47,753 --> 00:37:51,173
And I love, like it is the
funnest place to go to.

863
00:37:51,173 --> 00:37:54,653
They have like more high-end
things and all of the pieces

864
00:37:54,653 --> 00:37:56,603
are curated for their store.

865
00:37:56,933 --> 00:37:59,333
Um, so yeah, I just love my dress.

866
00:37:59,393 --> 00:38:02,333
It's like my absolute favorite.

867
00:38:03,023 --> 00:38:06,083
What is really funny is the
pictures I just got done at.

868
00:38:07,448 --> 00:38:08,708
The Capitol building.

869
00:38:09,038 --> 00:38:09,338
Yeah.

870
00:38:09,428 --> 00:38:15,128
The dress looks green in the pictures, but
it's like a dark blue, so I'm like, oh,

871
00:38:15,128 --> 00:38:17,018
I could definitely post these separately.

872
00:38:17,018 --> 00:38:18,698
'cause no one would know
it's the same dress.

873
00:38:18,698 --> 00:38:20,258
'cause it looks like
it's a different color.

874
00:38:20,648 --> 00:38:20,768
Yeah.

875
00:38:20,798 --> 00:38:24,608
They throw a filter on sometimes
that makes the color like, yeah.

876
00:38:24,668 --> 00:38:25,388
But wow.

877
00:38:25,388 --> 00:38:28,838
I was told I'm totally okay with it
because the, just the color makes

878
00:38:28,838 --> 00:38:31,178
it look like a completely different
dress than what it really is.

879
00:38:31,178 --> 00:38:31,208
Ooh.

880
00:38:31,508 --> 00:38:33,758
But those pictures, I was
like sending 'em to people.

881
00:38:33,758 --> 00:38:35,228
Like, look how pretty I am.

882
00:38:38,048 --> 00:38:38,198
I

883
00:38:38,198 --> 00:38:38,378
did

884
00:38:38,378 --> 00:38:39,098
the same thing.

885
00:38:39,188 --> 00:38:39,848
I did the same thing.

886
00:38:39,848 --> 00:38:39,908
I'm

887
00:38:39,908 --> 00:38:45,198
like, they like some of them are go and
because it kind of like it floWirfs.

888
00:38:45,218 --> 00:38:47,498
It's not like a tight fitting
'cause that doesn't fit with

889
00:38:47,498 --> 00:38:49,518
my body type, but it floWirfs.

890
00:38:49,538 --> 00:38:52,838
And so I had, I was like flinging
it up and like having my arm come

891
00:38:52,838 --> 00:38:54,848
down and, oh, it looks so pretty.

892
00:38:55,298 --> 00:38:55,718
Oh,

893
00:38:56,168 --> 00:38:58,928
see, I'm stuck on my actual evening gown.

894
00:38:58,958 --> 00:39:01,658
Like you saw me working
on my costume earlier.

895
00:39:01,718 --> 00:39:03,038
I have all these different gowns.

896
00:39:05,558 --> 00:39:09,338
And I thought for sure that I
was gonna do this one that has

897
00:39:09,338 --> 00:39:10,898
like a butterfly on the back.

898
00:39:11,138 --> 00:39:12,043
Yeah, I thought that.

899
00:39:12,098 --> 00:39:13,478
I remember you talking about that.

900
00:39:13,748 --> 00:39:13,958
Yeah.

901
00:39:13,958 --> 00:39:16,268
Well now everyone's like
that's a little juvenile.

902
00:39:16,388 --> 00:39:21,368
Like maybe we need to be a
little whatever grown up.

903
00:39:21,368 --> 00:39:22,028
No, I don't.

904
00:39:22,178 --> 00:39:23,258
I don't think it's juvenile

905
00:39:24,428 --> 00:39:27,818
Comes with your, my whole whatever.

906
00:39:27,968 --> 00:39:30,728
I found something maybe
that I don't know yet.

907
00:39:30,938 --> 00:39:32,198
'cause I'm a little squishy.

908
00:39:33,233 --> 00:39:33,983
For the dress.

909
00:39:34,823 --> 00:39:36,593
Oh, it's someone else's dress.

910
00:39:38,213 --> 00:39:39,418
I love how you say I'm
little, little squishy.

911
00:39:39,938 --> 00:39:43,763
I could make it work, but like I
definitely look a little bit like I've

912
00:39:43,763 --> 00:39:47,993
been shoved into a sausage casing, so
I need to not eat all the ice cream

913
00:39:47,993 --> 00:39:50,213
I've been eating if I want that dress.

914
00:39:50,873 --> 00:39:56,783
But then there's another dress that like
it could just wash me out is the problem.

915
00:39:57,143 --> 00:39:57,503
Yeah.

916
00:39:59,303 --> 00:39:59,753
Yeah.

917
00:39:59,753 --> 00:40:03,263
So you never, you never know, like,
I, I love this dress and I'm wearing,

918
00:40:03,263 --> 00:40:04,283
this is the dress I'm wearing.

919
00:40:04,283 --> 00:40:05,063
So that's all that wear.

920
00:40:05,843 --> 00:40:10,403
I mean, if you want take it to the
con go, that dress needs to be seen.

921
00:40:11,033 --> 00:40:12,293
Yes, it definitely does.

922
00:40:12,293 --> 00:40:13,553
It definitely, definitely does.

923
00:40:13,613 --> 00:40:15,593
Well, I have had so much
fun talking with you.

924
00:40:15,593 --> 00:40:18,838
I actually, I'm two minutes late to
another call that I'm supposed to be on.

925
00:40:18,978 --> 00:40:19,198
I'm

926
00:40:19,198 --> 00:40:19,643
so sorry.

927
00:40:19,643 --> 00:40:20,093
Kay.

928
00:40:20,423 --> 00:40:20,873
Do not be sorry.

929
00:40:20,873 --> 00:40:21,653
End my thing.

930
00:40:21,953 --> 00:40:23,183
I'm gonna end my thing.

931
00:40:23,363 --> 00:40:26,693
And will you just tell us
where you want us to find you?

932
00:40:27,593 --> 00:40:33,263
You know what, the easiest way to to find
anything about me is kimberly wfs.com

933
00:40:33,563 --> 00:40:40,583
and that is K-I-M-B-E-R-L-Y-W-I-R-F,
like Frank, S like sam.com.

934
00:40:41,363 --> 00:40:41,603
Okay, perfect.

935
00:40:41,963 --> 00:40:44,153
I can't tell that I've been
spelling that for years.

936
00:40:44,393 --> 00:40:47,063
I mean, you've gotta make
sure they get it right.

937
00:40:47,873 --> 00:40:48,743
Yes, yes.

938
00:40:49,013 --> 00:40:52,883
Well, and I'm sure you will
definitely put that in the show notes.

939
00:40:52,883 --> 00:40:54,328
Yeah, we'll have it in your show notes.

940
00:40:54,983 --> 00:40:55,373
Yeah.

941
00:40:55,793 --> 00:40:58,073
But thank you so much for
being You're welcome here.

942
00:40:58,073 --> 00:40:59,093
Take care of yourself.

943
00:40:59,093 --> 00:41:00,383
It's a crazy world out there.

944
00:41:00,773 --> 00:41:01,313
Yes.

945
00:41:01,313 --> 00:41:02,183
I've loved it.

946
00:41:02,183 --> 00:41:02,723
Thank you so

947
00:41:02,723 --> 00:41:02,813
much.

948
00:41:04,163 --> 00:41:04,583
Bye.

949
00:41:05,033 --> 00:41:05,663
Okay, bye.

950
00:41:05,993 --> 00:41:06,733
I'm gonna stop the recording.