Feb. 25, 2025

Purposeful Pageantry: More Than Meets the Sash w/ Mrs. Utah America

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Purposeful Pageantry: More Than Meets the Sash w/ Mrs. Utah America

The Healing Journey of Pageantry: Amanda and Chelsi's Transformative Experiences

In this heartfelt episode, Amanda McCombs, also known as Mrs. Daybreak, chats with Chelsi Rasmussen, Mrs. Utah America, about their shared journey in the world of pageantry. They discuss their initial fears and the overwhelming support of their 'Sash sisterhood.' Throughout their conversation, they delve into the profound personal growth and healing both have experienced, offering advice on embracing change, finding one's voice, and the significance of community.

Chelsi shares her advocacy for sexual abuse prevention and the spiritual journey that has shaped her family and marriage after leaving their religious community. The episode is a testament to the deeper, transformative impact of participating in pageants and the power of authenticity and support.

00:00 Welcome to the Not So Genius Mind

00:47 First Meeting and Pageant Beginnings

03:26 The Power of Community and Support

12:01 From Survivor to Thriver

18:25 Personal Growth and Relationship Challenges

22:59 Redefining Spirituality and Family Values

27:50 Winning State and the Pageant High

28:45 The Journey to Nationals

31:42 The Mental Game of Pageants

34:31 Authenticity and Imposter Syndrome

38:47 Aligning with Personal Values

43:17 Manifesting and Journaling

45:53 Making Life Shifts and Seeking Support

49:15 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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Yay.

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Hello everyone and welcome to the inner
workings of the Not So Genius Mind.

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I'm your host, Amanda McCombs, the Not So
Genius, and I'm your Mrs. Daybreak this

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year, and I'm here with Chelsi Rasmussen.

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She is Such a dear friend.

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We've only known each other maybe like
a year and a half now that I think

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about it, but it's been life changing.

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Um, she's a fellow sass, sash, sister,
life coach, and mom of, was it four?

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No way.

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Four.

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Oh my goodness.

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Chelsi Rasmussen, our Mrs. Utah America.

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How are you?

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Oh, Amanda, thank you
so much for having me.

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I'm, I'm so excited to get
to chat with you today.

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Yay, I'm excited to have you.

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Ah, um, oh, maybe I should've, I'm
gonna spring this on you a little bit.

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So, I think the first time we met was
at the Queen's party at Bailey's house.

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Mm, mm hmm.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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It was that Christmas favorite
things party that that was the, I,

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I remember going, I remember being
so nervous going to that event.

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And I remember saying a prayer to myself
in the car and be like, okay, heavenly

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team, this is, this is all so new to me.

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And You know, like, I need to
know for sure, like, if this is,

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like, I need another verification
that I am on the right path.

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And I remember arriving and being
so nervous and, you know, starting

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to get to know all the Sash sisters.

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And I remember leaving there just, like,
with this overwhelming feeling of, yes.

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Yes, this is exactly where I need to be.

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And, um, meeting you was such a
beautiful part of that and getting

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to know more of your story.

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It was, yeah, so powerful.

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Oh my goodness.

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Well, you and I both hadn't
done a pageant before.

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Right, right.

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So we were both wide
eyed and like soaking up

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all the

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information.

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Yes.

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Like everyone is so pretty and
nice and they want to be my friend.

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This is weird.

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It's mind blowing.

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Um, I just remember sitting down next
to you and I was chatting with Clarissa.

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Um, and I remember sitting next to you and
we were, chit chatting forever and ever

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and ever and we were just like pouring
our hearts out to each other and everybody

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was like getting up and leaving and you
and I are still like psh psh psh psh.

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I knew you were gonna win.

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From that moment I was like That
crown is going to be way too heavy

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on my head, but this girl's got it.

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Oh, that's really kind of you to say.

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Oh, thank you.

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You know, I think we, it's
hard to see that in ourselves.

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Yeah.

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Well, and there was no way because
my mom had just passed that August.

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Right.

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I had so much that I
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Oh my

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goodness, right?

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I mean, all of us do.

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Yes.

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All of us do.

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Like, you have had your own things going
on, even when you went on to nationals.

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Which, it was so fun to
see you up on that stage.

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But like, everyone has stuff going on.

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It was wonderful that you came and
support, supported us like the, the

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Sash sisterhood in the, of the Utah,
you know, the Utah program is so real.

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And there were so many people at
Nationals who were so jealous of not

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only our relationship with our directors,
but the amount of support that we

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had show up for Utah was amazing.

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And so it was beautiful that
you were a part of that.

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Oh, thank you.

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We just, I think we all just
wanted to be there, and like, we

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trauma bonded, kind of, right?

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We totally did!

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We're all winners, and we're
like, all there supporting

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each other, and I lost so hard.

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I was like, I know, I know I don't got it.

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I'm just going to show up and I'm going
to do it and I'll do better next year.

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And it'll be less scary.

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Okay.

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But you nailed that on you.

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What you said, just nailed it on the head.

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You showed up anyways.

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Right.

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And, and choosing, even though it was
so hard and it was so scary, you're

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choosing to do it again, which means
like, You know, like that means so much

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about you, Amanda, of just, you're like,
yes, of course, I'm doing it again.

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And it's like, I made up.

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You're, you're just in, you're
an inspiration to so many.

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Oh, well, We can say the same about you.

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Everyone listening is probably
like, Ew, these girls are gross.

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Really, this is like, I think the
whole time we're getting ready, we're

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sharing, um, sharing ideas, like
nothing's really kept hidden a secret.

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We're not trying to undercut each other.

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Everyone's trying to support each other.

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Um, and that's a community that I think
a lot of us that are in it have always.

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Yes.

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Um, I, that has been part of my
healing journey of, um, you know, I

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kind of left a big community that I
had growing up and that was a big part

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of a part of my world in every facet.

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And as I left that community,
it was really lonely.

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And, you know, as I was trying to
figure out what's next and, you know,

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to have this pageant fall into my lap,
how beautiful, like, and I wasn't even

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realizing that it would heal that part of
feeling like a lack of community and how.

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Amazing it has been to have this
sisterhood, like what, like you said,

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that is not only so supportive, but
inclusive of, you know, like the

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energy is all about what do you need?

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How can we support you?

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Rather than, you know, Well, I
had all the preconceived notions

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going into the pageant world.

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It just was a completely
different experience.

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And so it's just been so
beautiful and healing.

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That

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is kind

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of exactly

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what I was going to say.

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This whole world that you don't,
when you grow up, not really having

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other women that have your back,
and then you find that community

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later in life, like whatever point.

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of your life you're in.

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There's ladies of all
ages in this pageant.

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And we're all able to still
show up for each other.

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And I think that's so cool.

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There's this, like, we needed, we
all clearly needed that community.

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Oh, we, everybody, right, needs to find
their community where they feel that they

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belong and that they are seen and heard.

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And, I know our society really
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Um, I think especially after
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of how much we need each other.

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yeah, just, it's crazy that finding
community through pageantry.

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I never, never knew that was, that
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from this, which was so beautiful.

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We lost our villages.

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And we had to figure out
how to get them again.

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Right, right.

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Or like, and they needed to change.

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And I think a lot of us Think about all
the picture perfect things that we see

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on social media and what life should
be like and you don't realize how hard

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and how difficult all this crap is that
we have to go through to get up there.

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Did you think, so your original title
was you were Eagle Mountain, right?

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Correct.

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Yes.

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Um, did you think claiming that
title helped you kind of solidify

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who you were more as a person?

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I know that, and it wasn't just taking
on the title of Mrs. Eagle Mountain.

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It was getting my brain on board.

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With shifting to like getting in
a place where I'd be comfortable

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receiving the title as Mrs. Utah.

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And you know, what I teach my coaching
clients is, you know, okay, you have

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this goal, what, and then trying to get
them to, okay, what does it feel like

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when you've obtained this goal and, and
feel that energy now and live your life

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as if you've already obtained that goal.

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So that not only helps elevate.

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your energy, but helps get your mind on
board with, okay, like I, I'm not, I'm

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going to act as if I'm Mrs. Utah now.

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And I also utilize this, you know,
after coming home from Mrs. America,

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it was another aha moment of like, wait
a second, even though I didn't receive

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that title, there's no reason why.

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I can't do the things that I wanted to
do as Mrs. America, as Mrs. Utah, right?

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I can still take that same energy
and implement it now, right?

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I didn't need that title to do
the things that I wanted to do.

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I can still do that as Mrs.
Utah and I, I, that's the same

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as local title holders, right?

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Like if, you know, elevating
your energy to stand.

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As if you were Mrs. Utah or Mrs. America
or whatever it is, whatever the goal

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is living that now and sitting in
that energy now helps to just helps

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amplify and helps you get closer to.

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Obtaining those goals and
being a, being aligned, right?

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Like, I, I think the biggest thing that
we miss when we are setting goals is the

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energy and the energy and being congruent.

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and aligned with what, with what
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And I, I know, you know, beliefs that
we have oftentimes get in the way of,

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of receiving that and standing, you know,
standing as if we had already obtained

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that goal, but mindset is everything.

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And so trick, if you know, if it takes
tricking our mind to help make that shift.

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And I, so when you asked, you know,
how If that was hard to receive that

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title of Mrs. Eagle Mountain, I think,
I think I was so excited and humbled

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to be able to represent not only my
community, um, but bigger than that, of

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being a voice and an advocate for her.

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Myself, not only myself, but for so
many others who felt like they didn't

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have a platform or space to speak
up about these hard things that, um,

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need to shift and change in Utah.

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And, um, for the listeners.

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So my platform, um, was going
from survivor to thriver.

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So it was all around sexual abuse
prevention and awareness and sexual

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assault prevention and awareness.

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And as scary as that was, Um, you know,
I, I think as women and maybe, maybe as

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humans, it's so much easier to stand up
for other people than it is ourselves.

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And so when I'm talking to victims or
survivors of abuse and, and they're

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saying, well, I, I just don't, I don't
know how I can, you know, speak up about

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this or report this or stand up to this.

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And I have, I have to ask
them, like, if, if you knew.

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By standing up and reporting would
prevent it from happening to someone else.

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Would you?

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Would you?

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And, and they're like, Oh, well, yeah.

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It's like, okay, so why is it, why is
standing up for yourself any different?

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But sometimes we have to start there.

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We have to start with
standing up for others.

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And, you know, through my journey, you
know, started with standing up for others.

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And then it morphed into
becoming the person.

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That I always needed, right?

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The person that I needed to protect.

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and stand up for myself, and,
and my little child self, and my

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teenage self, and my young adult
self, and my, right, like all the

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different parts of ourselves that

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we're, you know, taking advantage
of in one way or another.

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So we talk about Like we talk a lot
about when you're going from just

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surviving to being able to thrive, right?

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You want to not be in like lizard
brain At our school trauma brain.

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Yes.

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Yes call it wizard versus lizard brain As
well, I can like make some magic, right?

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You can think a little deeper and more
complex and Anyway, yes, there was

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somewhere that I was going to go with
that, but I think a big part of that

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is being able to like find your voice
and know that you can speak up for

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other people that don't have a voice.

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Yes, even without having all of this
pageant stuff, but it like there's

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something about this whole process that,
um, kind of helped me shift my brain to

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be a better advocate, if that makes sense.

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It totally makes sense.

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And I, it's hard because I've, I mean,
I was just talking with someone at the

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gym this morning about, about this.

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Um, They had a child who, um, was, uh,
a victim, and just the layers that, you

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know, that continues, continue to, you
know, they continue to get re triggered,

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and it's hard because I don't know, I
don't know if we ever completely heal.

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I think, I think, you
know, Oh, I've healed this.

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I've, I've done this.

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I've, I think that's kind of been,
Oh, what's the word I'm looking for?

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Sensationalized, especially on, you know,
and it's talked about a lot and trauma is

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thrown around a bunch and I, you know, I'm
like, some things I'm like, Oh, Oh, do we

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really understand what that word means?

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Um, but the is to be able to heal
enough, heal enough layers so that

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you are not triggered from day to day.

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And that once and if you get triggered,
you have the skills, you know how

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to, how to pull yourself out of that
and get an op, operate from a wizard

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brain rather than a lizard brain.

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I love, I love that analogy.

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Um, But you know, there are, I, I'm
still doing my work and even though

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like I've labeled myself as, yes, I feel
like I'm thriving, there are still times

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and days that are still very hard, but
it's important that we give ourselves

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permission to not only like hold space
for those times when we get triggered

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and dealing and things still are hard.

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and we are able to help
ourselves out of it.

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I think, I think learning the skills
and getting to a place where you

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are able to function in, right?

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Function from day to day.

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I think that's how I see going from
survivor to thriver is being able to

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help yourself and not rely heavily on
Resources and everyone around you to

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pull you out and, and keep you afloat.

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Right.

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Um, yeah, it's, it's a journey for sure.

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It

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really is.

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I think of it kind of like when you're
doing fire drills with kids and there

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isn't actually an emergency, but like the
more you put those things into practice,

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the easier it is going to be to do it.

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Absolutely.

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Yes.

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And, and it's been a learning curve.

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And teaching my husband, like knowing what
to do, what I need when I am triggered,

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when I am in this space, um, of dealing
with heavy things, um, you know, giving,

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giving our loved ones the tools and the
language to help when needed is, is right.

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It takes a village and I know I, I could
not have done it without my village.

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Geez, for real.

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Um, And your husband is so incredible.

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He is so sweet.

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I loved watching him at your Barbie party.

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He was totally dressed up.

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It was so

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cute.

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He was your Ken.

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Yes, and you know, something I haven't
really shared and talked about is the

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growth journey that I, I didn't even
know this would, who knew that a pageant

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would not obviously be a growth journey
for me, but wow, the growth journey that

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has happened in my relationship as You
know, there were so, so many different

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things that we have had to overcome
and heal as a couple and still are.

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We're still, you know, we are not
perfect, but it, it's been amazing

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to see how a pageant journey would,
would help, would con, confront us

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with different things that we needed
to heal in our relationship and be able

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to, you know, be able to, you know,
Allow space and grace for each other of

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showing up authentically because as
I mentioned earlier, we both left

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our community of origin that we grew
up in and it was very traumatizing

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for us leaving that, that community.

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And then reorganizing and redeveloping.

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Okay, who are we as not only
individuals, but as a family outside this

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community, outside this organization?

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And it was like, it's so hard.

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Anybody who's, um, when I say
community, I mean religion.

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So anybody who has done that
sort of reform in their life of

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like foundationally re examining
everything is, is really, really hard.

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And it was so beautiful that this
pageant came into my life when it did

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because It provided so many opportunities
to, for my relationship to, you know,

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just re, I don't know, it provided
opportunities for conversations around

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things that we didn't really talk
about or learn about each other before.

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And, you know, I, I, I would be lying if
I say it didn't push us to our limits.

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Um, We, you know, but it's, it's
so beautiful to look back at the

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journey, you know, I think I'm going
to write a book about it eventually,

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honestly, because there is so, you
know, social media just shows a

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snippet of, and the highlights, right?

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And I will say this last year as
Mrs. Utah, it was, it's been the

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best year of my life and it's
also, also been the hardest.

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There's been a lot of things behind
the scenes that, like, hardly

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anybody knows about, that I'm like,
okay, eventually I'm, I'm going

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to have to tell this whole story.

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Because I don't want people to think
that it was all rainbows and, you know,

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um, and it took a lot of work and a
lot of work on, on both of our part,

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um, in my relationship and marriage of,

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right, reexamining and holding space.

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For each

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other to, to grow and develop,
um, and reclaim our own,

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like, who we are as a person.

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And allow that individuality for
each other without the need to

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change, I guess.

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And I don't know if I'm
making any sense, but

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Like, you kind of have to figure
out Like your shelf broke.

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I went through all this, my husband, my
husband and I left, like I left when I was

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a teen and he was older and, um, like was
married in the temple and all that stuff.

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And even though we, it had been
years since either one of us had been

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raised in it or even gone to church
really, just cause we were raised in

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it and it was part of our culture.

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Long and it was full and
it was like every Sunday.

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That's what you were learning.

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You really have to step
back and figure out.

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if you want any of that.

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Yeah.

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Well, and, and just, um, I think
the biggest thing is restoring

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trust in yourself and, and you know,
what was big for me is separating.

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It was a big aha for me to separate
religion from spirituality and recognizing

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like, Oh, I, I am a very spiritual person,
and I don't necessarily, for me, and I,

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and I get this isn't way for everyone,
and this is what's so beautiful is we

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get, we, everybody gets their own path.

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This is what I believe.

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Everyone has their own path, um, but it's
important for everyone to feel connected

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to something higher than us, whether
that's a higher power, whether that's

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God, whether that's, um, You know, what,
what, uh, the universe, whatever that is.

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It is so crucial that we feel connected.

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And once I was able to separate and
realize, Oh, I can still be a very

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spiritual person and it doesn't need
to be tied to this organization.

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That was so freeing for me and for
my family, um, to really trust and

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lean into what felt right for us and
where our values are Um, Lay, you

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know, we, I think that was another
big fear of like, Oh, leaving this,

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this organized religion, like, how do
we, we had so many people like, well,

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how are you going to teach your kids?

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Like what's right and wrong and what
values are and what, and, and, you

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know, there was a moment in my brain
that was like, Oh, like that it

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felt scary and confronted with that.

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I'm like, Oh, how am I going to do this?

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But then quickly realizing,
you know, I graduated.

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In social work and, you know, took,
you know, within that, like all these

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marriage and family classes and child
development and, and it was like, Oh,

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wait, no, no, I am very equipped to be
able to teach my kids values and what's

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right and wrong and what we feel is.

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right for our family, um, was a huge
freedom and restoring trust back in

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myself of like, yes, I am equipped.

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I, we can do this.

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Um, and how beautiful that it is.

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It like, if anything, it gave me back
more power because I feel like before,

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and I'm not saying this is like for
everyone, but for me, I felt like I

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relied a lot on the religion to teach my
kids and realizing, Oh, wait, I'm taking

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back this power and, and I really get to
teach my kids what we value as a family.

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And, um, Yeah, just, yeah,
again, restoring that trust

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is huge and was everything.

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And on this journey, this pageant journey,
you know, I was thinking, Oh, this

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pageant journey is going to help me heal.

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Feeling like I have a voice, but
what I didn't realize, you know,

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and I was thinking like feeling
like I had a voice to advocate

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for, um, abuse prevention, but.

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Looking back now, it's
like, Oh, no, no, no, no.

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This wasn't just for abuse prevention.

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This was healing myself, um,
and being able to speak up in

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relationships of like speaking up for
my boundaries, um, advocating for my

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relationship with my children, um,
setting boundaries in my marriage.

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Um,

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I mean, it, it trickled down to
all aspects of my life, realizing.

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Oh, I felt like I didn't have a voice
in so many different places in my life.

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And stepping into that role just
really helped, helped me help

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to restore that strength and
realizing, Oh no, I am worthy.

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I am worth standing up for.

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And it's been fun to see
it trickle down to my kids.

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My, my oldest daughter, um, I have
three daughters and then my youngest

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is a son and this trickle down effect
of seeing how it's impacted them.

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Being able to see mom do hard things.

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And, the things that they've pushed
themselves to do because they know,

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Hey, mom, mom's done hard things.

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I can do hard things.

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It's been so cool.

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It's like, that's, that's been the gift.

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It makes you a really cool example.

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Like you're practicing
what you're preaching.

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You're not just like sitting on
the sidelines and being like,

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okay, you go do the thing.

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You're

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doing the thing.

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Doing the thing.

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You went in.

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So state title, you won.

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It was sandwiched right in
between you and Charlotte.

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The first runner up in you.

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And then you went on, and I can
imagine being on this, like, I was

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on a high from being on the pageant.

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I didn't even win.

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I was just, I loved being a part of it.

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Oh, the energy around that?

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Well, yes, the energy around state
and all the women participating

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is just so, it's hard to describe.

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It is hard to describe
unless you're in it.

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But what about the hangover?

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How bad was that?

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Oh, yes.

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It, it was, it was, Right?

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Because we are pushing
ourselves in every facet, right?

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I tell everybody, um, Hey, if you want
to go, if you're craving a self growth

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journey, a pageant is a great way for
that because you're not only pushing

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yourself physically, you're not only
pushing yourself socially and mentally and

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spiritually, like you're pushing yourself
in every facet and It was crazy to win

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state and then having to pick up and
turn around and go right on to nationals.

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Yeah.

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And that was a lot.

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Um, but also what a crazy opportunity.

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It's funny because I, I didn't
even know when I joined the Mrs.

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Utah organization, I had no idea.

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That, like, the winner
goes on to Nationals.

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And I don't know how I missed that memo.

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I, I, like, I don't know if I was
tuning out to the, like, during, like,

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a workshop where that was talked about,
or, cause it was, like, only, yeah, it,

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it just, it didn't click in my brain.

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It did not click in my brain.

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Mrs. Utah goes on to
compete at Mrs. America.

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And so that was a whirlwind
to like get on board with it.

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Like, okay, we're doing this.

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Let's, let's go.

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And,

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um, it was, it was a amazing experience
to be able to rub shoulders with such

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powerful women across America, where.

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You know, a lot of them
are doctors and teachers.

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There was just so, it was so diverse.

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But all of these women were, had
a cause and something that they

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felt so passionate to stand up for.

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And, I mean, life change,
life changing week, right?

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To be able to, not only, I mean,
so fun to have the opportunity

445
00:30:45,103 --> 00:30:49,463
to get red carpet ready, hair and
makeup done every day, fun wardrobe,

446
00:30:49,473 --> 00:30:51,193
you know, all the fun part of it.

447
00:30:51,663 --> 00:30:52,523
All week.

448
00:30:52,993 --> 00:31:00,293
Yes, but, um, yeah, it was, it
was definitely a bucket list

449
00:31:00,683 --> 00:31:02,393
opportunity for sure.

450
00:31:02,703 --> 00:31:03,383
For sure.

451
00:31:03,878 --> 00:31:08,618
I kind of went just to kind of be
like, I didn't realize for some reason

452
00:31:08,618 --> 00:31:13,018
when I signed up, my head was just
only thinking about Mrs. Utah and

453
00:31:13,068 --> 00:31:14,688
I didn't even really think about.

454
00:31:16,043 --> 00:31:17,283
nationals at all.

455
00:31:18,113 --> 00:31:18,553
Right?

456
00:31:18,653 --> 00:31:18,903
I

457
00:31:18,943 --> 00:31:19,823
don't, I know.

458
00:31:20,193 --> 00:31:22,403
Yeah, I was right there with you.

459
00:31:22,443 --> 00:31:24,383
Didn't, didn't realize, didn't realize.

460
00:31:24,533 --> 00:31:27,583
I'm gonna go and make sure I really
want to do this again because right

461
00:31:27,583 --> 00:31:30,543
afterwards I told Amanda Brady, I was
like, I'm going to quit my job and

462
00:31:30,543 --> 00:31:31,813
I'm going to do pageants full time.

463
00:31:32,813 --> 00:31:33,253
Perfect.

464
00:31:34,093 --> 00:31:35,213
Slow down, slow down.

465
00:31:35,223 --> 00:31:35,373
Wait a minute.

466
00:31:36,963 --> 00:31:37,933
Let's think about this.

467
00:31:38,883 --> 00:31:38,893
Uh,

468
00:31:39,213 --> 00:31:43,253
but yeah, it was really fun to watch
and I could tell it's like, it's hard.

469
00:31:43,373 --> 00:31:44,303
It's hard work.

470
00:31:44,833 --> 00:31:50,328
Um, And you are pushing
yourself to the max.

471
00:31:50,738 --> 00:31:51,418
Oh, yeah.

472
00:31:51,568 --> 00:31:58,848
Um, It, yes, it physically demanding,
but mentally I don't, I don't think

473
00:31:58,858 --> 00:32:05,178
people understand the mental game, um,
of doing pageants, of really having

474
00:32:05,178 --> 00:32:11,558
to get good at staying in, in your,
like, connect, not only connected

475
00:32:11,558 --> 00:32:12,368
to yourself, but to other people.

476
00:32:13,358 --> 00:32:18,308
I like to say inward and upward, like you
staying connected to yourself and heaven.

477
00:32:18,978 --> 00:32:22,608
And cause once you start looking
side to side, you get in your

478
00:32:22,608 --> 00:32:26,438
home, you know, in that comparison
game, you get in your own head and.

479
00:32:26,878 --> 00:32:28,698
It's like, it's over.

480
00:32:28,958 --> 00:32:29,598
It's over.

481
00:32:30,248 --> 00:32:33,428
Um, and it, it is, it pushes ya.

482
00:32:33,498 --> 00:32:38,468
And you have to get really,
really good of staying in your

483
00:32:38,468 --> 00:32:42,348
own lane and, and not comparing.

484
00:32:42,428 --> 00:32:45,818
And I think, as a society,
we struggle with that.

485
00:32:45,858 --> 00:32:46,788
And so,

486
00:32:48,848 --> 00:32:52,888
yeah, as I'm sitting here talking,
it's, it's really hitting home for

487
00:32:52,898 --> 00:32:57,498
me how, I've had to get good at that
this last year and strengthen that

488
00:32:57,498 --> 00:33:02,898
muscle of letting go of the comparison
game and giving myself permission

489
00:33:05,108 --> 00:33:17,908
to just show up as me and, and not
some idea of how I think I should

490
00:33:17,918 --> 00:33:21,448
be showing up, you know, and I'm,
I'm, I'm still learning that.

491
00:33:21,458 --> 00:33:27,718
In fact, this, this, this last
weekend, um, we did a photo

492
00:33:27,728 --> 00:33:30,878
shoot Saturday morning and.

493
00:33:31,553 --> 00:33:38,113
I, I, um, without going into too much
detail, uh, something happened and

494
00:33:38,113 --> 00:33:42,063
Saturday night I came home and had
a panic attack and it was all around

495
00:33:42,083 --> 00:33:48,903
because I changed something or I
gave up a little bit of my power to

496
00:33:49,593 --> 00:33:57,343
acquiesce to what some someone else was
expecting and I didn't feel congruent.

497
00:33:58,073 --> 00:34:05,023
With like, I didn't feel congruent,
um, or authentic with how I showed up

498
00:34:06,453 --> 00:34:11,903
and it was like, okay, I get to learn
this lesson again of really getting

499
00:34:11,903 --> 00:34:17,033
clear and tapping into what feels right
for me and not acquiescing to what

500
00:34:17,033 --> 00:34:19,098
someone else feels is right for me.

501
00:34:19,098 --> 00:34:24,308
Yeah, it's, it's, it's a, you
know, it's ongoing practice.

502
00:34:24,308 --> 00:34:25,258
I don't, I don't know.

503
00:34:25,688 --> 00:34:29,438
I don't know if we ever get to master,
you know, I would love to be able

504
00:34:29,438 --> 00:34:33,078
to master that, but it's, it's a,
it's an ongoing practice for sure.

505
00:34:33,628 --> 00:34:34,128
Do you think

506
00:34:34,128 --> 00:34:36,238
that's like the difference between

507
00:34:38,368 --> 00:34:39,828
imposter syndrome?

508
00:34:41,608 --> 00:34:45,488
Like, will that, if you're showing
up authentically, do you think

509
00:34:45,498 --> 00:34:48,888
that will help negate the imposter
syndrome that a lot of us feel?

510
00:34:49,408 --> 00:34:50,028
Cause.

511
00:34:51,118 --> 00:34:53,548
I just kind of faked it till I made it.

512
00:34:53,598 --> 00:34:57,858
And I still am like, I have no idea
what I'm doing, but I'm just gonna, I'm

513
00:34:57,858 --> 00:35:01,788
going to show up and I'm going to do
my best and I'm figuring out who I am.

514
00:35:03,918 --> 00:35:04,528
Yeah.

515
00:35:04,728 --> 00:35:07,838
I, you know, I, I agree in
faking it till you make it.

516
00:35:07,848 --> 00:35:09,208
Cause I've, I've been there.

517
00:35:09,908 --> 00:35:12,968
Um, Just feel like imposter syndrome.

518
00:35:13,028 --> 00:35:20,218
Like, but also I think what's important
is to give ourselves space and permission.

519
00:35:22,643 --> 00:35:23,523
And time.

520
00:35:23,573 --> 00:35:24,933
I think, I think this is key.

521
00:35:24,933 --> 00:35:30,273
We don't, we don't give ourselves enough
time, quiet time to really connect

522
00:35:30,273 --> 00:35:32,603
with ourselves and really get clear

523
00:35:34,963 --> 00:35:36,323
on what we value.

524
00:35:37,463 --> 00:35:42,283
A lot of times we give up our
power to what other people value.

525
00:35:43,948 --> 00:35:45,038
And,

526
00:35:47,298 --> 00:35:49,988
um, like for instance, so I,
I'm going to, I'm going to just,

527
00:35:49,988 --> 00:35:51,188
you know, just call it as it is.

528
00:35:51,188 --> 00:35:52,078
Cause that's how I do.

529
00:35:52,918 --> 00:35:58,568
So the photo shoot, I, um, I, you know,
the dresses that I were wearing, they

530
00:35:58,568 --> 00:36:03,843
were, they were plunging neckline and, You
know, sometimes in the pageant world and

531
00:36:04,053 --> 00:36:08,103
I've heard, I've heard, you know, through
like, just like, Oh, like I would never

532
00:36:08,103 --> 00:36:13,613
win because I don't have, I don't have the
chest that, you know, they're looking for.

533
00:36:14,013 --> 00:36:17,853
And so we, we laugh in the pageant
world of like, Oh, you know, like

534
00:36:17,853 --> 00:36:20,203
the pads that you can put in,
build a boobie workshop, you know?

535
00:36:20,743 --> 00:36:25,813
And, you know, so I put, I put pads in
my dress and I hadn't done that before.

536
00:36:25,823 --> 00:36:29,573
And for this photo shoot and,
you know, I got the photo, the

537
00:36:29,573 --> 00:36:31,053
photos back and I'm like, Oh no.

538
00:36:31,913 --> 00:36:35,003
I don't feel good about
like, that's not me.

539
00:36:35,033 --> 00:36:36,203
That's not my body.

540
00:36:36,493 --> 00:36:38,913
I don't, I don't feel congruent with that.

541
00:36:38,923 --> 00:36:42,173
Like, and like this judgment and what
caused the panic attack, what I'm

542
00:36:42,173 --> 00:36:50,573
realizing is the judgment I had on myself,
judging myself for like, how dare you?

543
00:36:51,233 --> 00:36:53,353
Like this is what was going on in my mind.

544
00:36:53,613 --> 00:37:00,583
How dare you let other people's opinions
and what they think you should look like?

545
00:37:02,003 --> 00:37:03,503
Impact how you showed up.

546
00:37:03,983 --> 00:37:04,553
Oof.

547
00:37:04,873 --> 00:37:07,093
Oh, it was, yeah.

548
00:37:07,303 --> 00:37:14,343
Like this is, this is hard for me to admit
and, and say is because like, I'm right.

549
00:37:14,343 --> 00:37:18,273
Like I'm still learning and healing
different layers of myself, of like,

550
00:37:18,273 --> 00:37:22,163
okay, I, I get to also practice.

551
00:37:23,123 --> 00:37:26,423
You know, and, and, you know, as I zoom
out, I'm like, oh, well, you know, I was

552
00:37:26,423 --> 00:37:30,563
in the energy, like, I was surrounded
by, you know, in the pageant world, you

553
00:37:30,673 --> 00:37:34,593
know, lots of photoshoots going on, lots
of pageant ladies around, all the make,

554
00:37:34,613 --> 00:37:38,553
you know, my hair and makeup team, and
I was in that world and in that energy.

555
00:37:39,043 --> 00:37:43,083
And so what I learned about
myself is I need to get good.

556
00:37:44,558 --> 00:37:49,228
at taking a step back for a second,
connecting with myself, separating

557
00:37:49,228 --> 00:37:53,148
myself, maybe even energetically
for a moment, checking with myself,

558
00:37:53,168 --> 00:37:55,048
okay, what feels right for me?

559
00:37:55,898 --> 00:38:00,058
And I think this, this relates to
every aspect in our lives, right?

560
00:38:00,058 --> 00:38:03,038
Whenever we're making, I mean, that was
a small decision, but whenever we're

561
00:38:03,038 --> 00:38:08,113
making decisions of getting good at
separating ourselves, You know, from

562
00:38:08,153 --> 00:38:13,303
other people and really getting clear
what is my heart saying, what is my

563
00:38:13,303 --> 00:38:15,183
gut saying, and what is my head saying?

564
00:38:15,213 --> 00:38:17,603
Because the, you can get
three different messages.

565
00:38:18,663 --> 00:38:23,663
You know, gut, um, I say in like, that's
our intuition, that's our inner knowing,

566
00:38:24,313 --> 00:38:30,353
um, you know, sometimes, you know, heart,
gut, and mind will all be, it will be

567
00:38:30,353 --> 00:38:31,623
giving us three different messages.

568
00:38:32,193 --> 00:38:38,873
answers, but strengthening that muscle
to really get good of tapping inward

569
00:38:39,123 --> 00:38:41,813
of how do I feel good about this?

570
00:38:41,983 --> 00:38:45,923
What do I think and feel, um, about this?

571
00:38:45,963 --> 00:38:49,103
And is this congruent with my values?

572
00:38:49,513 --> 00:38:52,303
Um, you know, something that I,
I work with my coaching clients

573
00:38:52,313 --> 00:38:57,073
about is, um, there's a worksheet
you can google like Brene Brown.

574
00:38:57,908 --> 00:38:58,818
List of values.

575
00:38:59,288 --> 00:38:59,618
Yeah.

576
00:38:59,908 --> 00:39:03,548
So Brené Brown has a worksheet, um, and
has a whole bunch of list of values.

577
00:39:03,578 --> 00:39:08,728
And I work with clients to get like
pit, be able to narrow down and get

578
00:39:08,728 --> 00:39:13,148
clear on their top three values,
values, which is really hard from

579
00:39:13,148 --> 00:39:14,788
this worksheet, like three to five.

580
00:39:15,738 --> 00:39:19,898
And once you are able to, especially
someone who has deconstructed and

581
00:39:19,898 --> 00:39:27,498
left, um, a religion to get clear on
the values on your personal values.

582
00:39:27,813 --> 00:39:32,583
Is huge because then you can know
when you're making a decision, you

583
00:39:32,593 --> 00:39:37,013
know, if you are operating out of the
values that feel congruent to you, or

584
00:39:37,013 --> 00:39:40,513
if you are giving up your power and
operating from someone else's values.

585
00:39:40,833 --> 00:39:41,203
Yeah.

586
00:39:44,403 --> 00:39:46,833
Oh, if you're not aligned
with your own values, just

587
00:39:46,833 --> 00:39:49,013
like that tiniest little tilt.

588
00:39:49,423 --> 00:39:49,913
Oh yeah.

589
00:39:50,133 --> 00:39:52,143
Shift everything.

590
00:39:52,963 --> 00:39:56,663
And then it, yes, and then it
feels incongruent, you, um,

591
00:39:56,713 --> 00:39:58,553
that's where anxiety comes from.

592
00:39:58,843 --> 00:40:00,373
And then you can't figure
out how to get back.

593
00:40:01,598 --> 00:40:04,658
Honestly, that's where anxiety
and depression comes from.

594
00:40:04,658 --> 00:40:10,708
A lot of the time is this feeling
incongruent with what feels right for

595
00:40:10,708 --> 00:40:17,288
us and giving up our power to all these
other sources, people like organizations

596
00:40:17,978 --> 00:40:19,958
thinking like that's what is expected.

597
00:40:19,958 --> 00:40:21,028
That's what's needed.

598
00:40:21,038 --> 00:40:24,668
That's what's, um, that's what they need.

599
00:40:27,693 --> 00:40:34,033
That has been life changing for
me, honestly, is realizing, oh wow.

600
00:40:34,873 --> 00:40:41,253
And, and to do, to make sure you're not
taking advice from people's, people who

601
00:40:41,353 --> 00:40:43,873
had, who has different values than you.

602
00:40:44,513 --> 00:40:48,533
Um, like one of my top values,
my, I'll tell you, my top two

603
00:40:48,533 --> 00:40:50,603
values is freedom and connection.

604
00:40:51,933 --> 00:41:04,273
And where I have loved ones who has a top
value of, Um, financial security and while

605
00:41:04,273 --> 00:41:11,163
that, you know, like that's a great thing
and something to be valued, I know that

606
00:41:11,163 --> 00:41:13,733
that it is a high, high value for them.

607
00:41:13,773 --> 00:41:19,633
And so if I am asking advice from
them and they are, they are telling

608
00:41:19,633 --> 00:41:26,773
me advice that may, and I've had this
experience before, that may contradict.

609
00:41:27,258 --> 00:41:28,518
My value of freedom.

610
00:41:29,768 --> 00:41:34,818
I it's like, okay, thank you
for that advice, but this

611
00:41:34,818 --> 00:41:36,388
actually aligns with me better.

612
00:41:37,548 --> 00:41:44,438
Um, anyways, that's just a little example,
but again, I highly encourage everyone.

613
00:41:44,438 --> 00:41:47,688
If you have not done it and, and it's,
you know, it's like, oh yeah, I know

614
00:41:47,688 --> 00:41:55,088
what I value, but to really write down on
paper exactly like the, the, the words.

615
00:41:55,403 --> 00:42:00,623
that you build your life around is huge.

616
00:42:01,333 --> 00:42:02,253
It's life changing.

617
00:42:02,253 --> 00:42:05,373
Like, okay, so when I'm making
this decision, does this align?

618
00:42:05,803 --> 00:42:08,303
Does this align with my
value of connection, with

619
00:42:08,313 --> 00:42:10,593
authenticity, with freedom?

620
00:42:11,103 --> 00:42:13,403
And a lot of times it's like,
oh, actually it doesn't.

621
00:42:13,743 --> 00:42:14,313
It doesn't.

622
00:42:14,323 --> 00:42:15,943
So that's not for me.

623
00:42:17,193 --> 00:42:17,993
How cool.

624
00:42:18,203 --> 00:42:19,353
How powerful is that?

625
00:42:19,363 --> 00:42:20,733
And it seems so simple.

626
00:42:21,323 --> 00:42:26,583
It is so simple, but we don't, we
all, yeah, we haven't been taught

627
00:42:26,593 --> 00:42:31,223
to take the time to really get
to know ourselves in that way.

628
00:42:31,773 --> 00:42:32,683
Oh, it's over there.

629
00:42:32,713 --> 00:42:38,138
I'm gonna have to show you, I got
this planner and it's I don't remember

630
00:42:38,138 --> 00:42:42,548
exactly what it's called, but all in the
front of it, it has you like, find your

631
00:42:42,548 --> 00:42:47,538
life's purpose and your goals and your
mission statement and all these things.

632
00:42:47,678 --> 00:42:48,488
Oh, I love it.

633
00:42:48,988 --> 00:42:52,368
And a little, what is it called?

634
00:42:52,388 --> 00:42:53,528
Like a dream board?

635
00:42:54,038 --> 00:42:54,558
Yes.

636
00:42:54,578 --> 00:42:55,338
Vision board.

637
00:42:55,338 --> 00:42:55,828
Yes.

638
00:42:55,868 --> 00:42:56,398
Dream board.

639
00:42:57,248 --> 00:42:59,638
To like, cause I, I have all these.

640
00:43:00,213 --> 00:43:01,183
Things happening.

641
00:43:01,183 --> 00:43:06,603
I don't have a normal job anymore, and
I can't do normal calendaring things

642
00:43:06,643 --> 00:43:10,003
on my phone while I'm talking on it
while I'm trying to talk to somebody.

643
00:43:10,043 --> 00:43:11,423
Like, my brain doesn't work like that.

644
00:43:11,423 --> 00:43:16,003
So I went old school and got pencil
and paper and just having to sit and

645
00:43:16,003 --> 00:43:19,033
think about that and sit for a minute.

646
00:43:19,743 --> 00:43:24,643
There is something powerful
that comes from pen to paper.

647
00:43:25,103 --> 00:43:29,873
Not only in like, so when you're saying
creating your dream board, um, manifesting

648
00:43:30,193 --> 00:43:32,193
to be able to actually write it out.

649
00:43:32,193 --> 00:43:33,693
Cause you're right.

650
00:43:33,703 --> 00:43:41,278
A lot of times we rely on our phones and
technology, um, to, Organize our lives.

651
00:43:42,338 --> 00:43:43,148
It's powerful.

652
00:43:43,448 --> 00:43:48,158
That's why I, I mean, journaling when
you're trying to manifest, um, being able

653
00:43:48,158 --> 00:43:54,098
to journal and write down affirmations
and journal out your dreams as if they

654
00:43:54,098 --> 00:43:58,808
have already happened is so powerful,
and I cannot emphasize that enough.

655
00:43:59,558 --> 00:44:02,678
So I love that you got the
jour your, your paper journal.

656
00:44:02,923 --> 00:44:05,528
I, I, um, I just got a new one too.

657
00:44:05,908 --> 00:44:06,148
It's

658
00:44:06,148 --> 00:44:07,678
just so, it's so pretty.

659
00:44:07,678 --> 00:44:08,488
And I was like.

660
00:44:09,568 --> 00:44:13,118
But it's all about manifesting, like, what
is the type of year that I want to have?

661
00:44:13,168 --> 00:44:17,448
And then each week, it gives you a little
breakdown of like, what are different ways

662
00:44:17,448 --> 00:44:20,088
that you can work towards meeting them?

663
00:44:20,928 --> 00:44:26,628
But it's been so overwhelming because
you have a lot going on, a lot going on.

664
00:44:26,788 --> 00:44:31,868
But what really helped is
the what's your why workshop.

665
00:44:32,518 --> 00:44:33,058
Oh, good.

666
00:44:33,238 --> 00:44:36,748
Like, how do you sit down and
answer who, what, where, when?

667
00:44:37,528 --> 00:44:41,348
Why and how, I guess, is the other one.

668
00:44:41,558 --> 00:44:44,688
Yes, I, you're not alone in that.

669
00:44:44,768 --> 00:44:51,118
I, I know as It's, it's hard for so
many of us because we, we just get

670
00:44:51,118 --> 00:44:56,518
caught up in the grind of life and
we're just going and doing the things.

671
00:44:56,568 --> 00:45:00,568
And a lot of times we don't sit
back and actually ask, okay,

672
00:45:00,568 --> 00:45:02,368
what, what's my why behind this?

673
00:45:02,678 --> 00:45:05,188
What, what is actually motivating me?

674
00:45:05,838 --> 00:45:10,098
And, um, what does this look like for me?

675
00:45:10,108 --> 00:45:16,298
Like if, you know, what is
my ideal best case scenario?

676
00:45:16,488 --> 00:45:19,138
A lot of times we don't even
give ourselves permission to.

677
00:45:20,358 --> 00:45:23,408
Think about that and we just like,
Oh yeah, this is what I've been told.

678
00:45:23,408 --> 00:45:24,918
This is what I need to do.

679
00:45:24,948 --> 00:45:26,308
This is what's been expected.

680
00:45:26,308 --> 00:45:28,938
This is what's been suggested, suggested.

681
00:45:29,788 --> 00:45:30,618
Um,

682
00:45:34,098 --> 00:45:34,658
yeah.

683
00:45:34,708 --> 00:45:39,938
And getting, getting clear on
your why is everything so huge,

684
00:45:40,758 --> 00:45:41,308
man.

685
00:45:42,168 --> 00:45:48,678
Well, I think this was probably a
good point to start winding down.

686
00:45:49,748 --> 00:45:54,828
Do you want to ask, is
there any recommendations?

687
00:45:55,708 --> 00:46:00,088
That you have for anybody that's
like looking to make a life

688
00:46:00,088 --> 00:46:01,818
shift like we're talking about.

689
00:46:01,828 --> 00:46:03,438
Like where do you begin?

690
00:46:03,628 --> 00:46:05,678
Like you already know you
need to make a change.

691
00:46:08,128 --> 00:46:09,368
What's your first?

692
00:46:11,213 --> 00:46:18,303
First thing is holding space
for yourself and giving yourself

693
00:46:18,463 --> 00:46:20,143
permission to do things differently.

694
00:46:20,653 --> 00:46:26,633
I think it is so scary to take
that first step of create, making

695
00:46:26,633 --> 00:46:30,313
a change and creating change and
giving yourself permission to change.

696
00:46:31,753 --> 00:46:36,393
Um, And utilizing support, right?

697
00:46:36,423 --> 00:46:37,293
It takes a village.

698
00:46:37,293 --> 00:46:38,673
We can't do things alone.

699
00:46:38,673 --> 00:46:44,263
So whether that's hiring a
counselor, hiring a coach, um,

700
00:46:46,323 --> 00:46:47,993
we can't do things alone.

701
00:46:48,563 --> 00:46:50,293
We are meant to have a community.

702
00:46:50,293 --> 00:46:53,083
We are meant, we are,
we are village people.

703
00:46:53,313 --> 00:46:56,683
We are tribe people from
the beginning of time.

704
00:46:56,683 --> 00:47:05,683
And there are so many resources
available that you just got to utilize.

705
00:47:05,763 --> 00:47:14,838
And I think, I think the biggest hang
up that, that people get, you know, that

706
00:47:14,918 --> 00:47:24,978
people get stuck is you have to know
and feel that you are worthy and worth

707
00:47:24,978 --> 00:47:29,068
it to stand up for and create change.

708
00:47:29,158 --> 00:47:33,678
Like you are worthy of creating
the life that you want and dream.

709
00:47:33,988 --> 00:47:37,698
You are worth making these changes.

710
00:47:40,618 --> 00:47:44,758
Becoming that advocate, advocate
for yourself and whatever that is,

711
00:47:48,068 --> 00:47:53,098
because we get stuck in our own
negative beliefs and patterns and

712
00:47:53,118 --> 00:47:58,168
things we've been told or have been
taught that, that are frankly, Is wrong.

713
00:47:59,758 --> 00:48:06,378
They do not serve us and
prevent us from, from creating

714
00:48:06,378 --> 00:48:07,988
the life that we want, right?

715
00:48:07,998 --> 00:48:11,458
So that, that, that would be my
first, if you are really struggling

716
00:48:11,458 --> 00:48:14,598
and you don't know, like, you
know, cause I, I was there.

717
00:48:15,618 --> 00:48:16,238
Oh my goodness.

718
00:48:16,248 --> 00:48:19,603
Not even, I mean, I was there.

719
00:48:20,013 --> 00:48:25,083
I was there probably two
years before, two years ago.

720
00:48:25,813 --> 00:48:30,613
It was right before the pageant and years
leading up to, you know, joining as Mrs.

721
00:48:30,653 --> 00:48:37,833
Eagle Mountain of like feeling so lost
and feeling like I didn't have a purpose

722
00:48:38,033 --> 00:48:44,633
and feeling like, you know, I felt like
there was something I need, I, I should be

723
00:48:44,633 --> 00:48:47,753
doing, but I wasn't clear on what it was.

724
00:48:48,313 --> 00:48:55,933
And, You know, I was dealing with trauma
and depression and, um, going through

725
00:48:56,813 --> 00:48:59,303
PTSD and was really, really struggling.

726
00:48:59,763 --> 00:49:02,113
And what helped shift everything

727
00:49:05,143 --> 00:49:07,633
was healing the belief that I am worth it.

728
00:49:09,233 --> 00:49:09,963
That's so powerful.

729
00:49:11,643 --> 00:49:12,803
Man, I love you.

730
00:49:14,783 --> 00:49:17,903
And I love you!

731
00:49:17,903 --> 00:49:20,013
Elsie, tell us where to find you.

732
00:49:21,513 --> 00:49:27,843
Right now on Instagram, just chat with
Chelsi with an I. Um, you know, as this

733
00:49:27,863 --> 00:49:34,373
pageant era of my life comes to a close,
it will be, you know, I have a couple

734
00:49:34,373 --> 00:49:39,813
of ideas where I'm wanting to take
things, but I'm, I'm passionate about.

735
00:49:40,473 --> 00:49:43,573
living authentically and
showing up authentically and

736
00:49:43,573 --> 00:49:45,743
having hard real conversations.

737
00:49:45,743 --> 00:49:53,013
So come over and join me over there and
continue having the real conversations,

738
00:49:53,043 --> 00:49:55,393
um, and calling things out as they are.

739
00:49:55,793 --> 00:49:57,153
I'd like to do that too.

740
00:49:57,833 --> 00:49:59,903
Um, yes, ma'am.

741
00:50:00,753 --> 00:50:02,113
So yeah, they can find me there.

742
00:50:03,143 --> 00:50:04,223
Thank you so much.

743
00:50:04,263 --> 00:50:08,973
Man, K, um, I'm trying to
remember how I end these things.

744
00:50:08,973 --> 00:50:12,433
Usually it's something along the
lines of take care of yourself.

745
00:50:12,443 --> 00:50:13,893
It's a crazy world out there.

746
00:50:14,243 --> 00:50:14,713
Yeah.

747
00:50:15,213 --> 00:50:16,783
Thanks, Amanda, for having me.

748
00:50:17,223 --> 00:50:18,023
I love you so much.

749
00:50:18,653 --> 00:50:19,383
You're the best.